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[Xmca-l] Re: The Highlander Center in Tennessee



Hopefully "Road Walking" will arrive here in the next day or two Greg. I do prefer a hard copy in my hand if I can get it. Yes, I was struck by his understanding of conflict as ever-present and ineradicable, but bringing it to the surface makes it possible to transform the situation. All very Hegelian, :)
Andy
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*Andy Blunden*
http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/


Greg Thompson wrote:
​Peg and Andy,
RE: chat and crises, Horton also has a moment where he notes the importance of conflict (this is when Moyers asks him about violence). He says that conflict is always there and in a sense it is the starting point.

Andy, in his conversation with Freire, there is an interesting discussion about "experts". Horton is not as cynical about expert knowledge as Freire. Horton seems to see it more as a tool to be used by the local community in their collective decision making. He describes bringing a very concerned and well intentioned lawyer into Highlander to explain to the parents what their options are. After the lawyer explained their options he started to tell them what he thought they should do. At that point, Horton describes how he had to forcibly take the guy by the arm and haul him out of the room so that this expert didn't make the decisions for those who were most familiar with the situation. Horton said as he was pulling the guy out of the room, the guy kept right on talking to the very last. Good intentions...

Here is a link to the pdf of the Freire-Horton book We Make the Road by Walking (what a great title!):
http://codkashacabka.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/we-make-the-road-by-walking-myles-and-paolo-freie-book.pdf
Made some great Sunday reading.
-greg​


On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 6:57 AM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>> wrote:

    he, he! yes. His approach is quite consonant with CHAT principles!
    ... but not many school teachers have the pupils pointing a gun at
    their head demanding the teacher stick to the 3Rs, or something. :)

    Andy
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    *Andy Blunden*
    http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
    <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>


    Peg Griffin wrote:

        In the precis you gave of the interview, Andy, I see clearly
        that it fits into Luria's dual stimulation method and more
        generally into development in crises/critical moments.
        PG


        On Monday, August 25, 2014 6:33 AM, Andy Blunden
        <ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>> wrote:


        Thanks so much for this, Greg,
        Listening to the guy (it took me all day to get through this 2
        hour
        video!) it comes across much clearer than I could get it from
        various texts.
        Around the 48 min mark he tells how this tough union group
        came up to
        Highlander to work through a problem they had, and they came
        to Horton
        and said they wanted him to make the decision for them because
        they
        couldn't resolve it. Horton refused. So they put a gun to his
        head to
        make their point. Still he refused.
        I was looking for where/how he *taught* collective
        decision-making, but
        it is clear now, by just insisting that people "take charge of
        their own
        lives" and demanding that while at the Center they run the
        whole place,
        together, and refusing ever to make a decision or tell them
        what ought
        to be done, they learnt how to make collective decisions, in
        their own way.
        In the autumn of 1959, when the students who were later to
        create SNCC
        came to Highlander (as opposed to the unionists CIO had been
        sending),
        this had the particularly spectacular outcomes which I am
        interested in.
        Sorry to be a little cryptic, but it's a work in progress.
        Thank you Robert and Peg and Greg for your assistance.

        Andy
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        *Andy Blunden*
        http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
        <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
        <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>



        Greg Thompson wrote:
        > and I started watching this nice special titled "Myles
        Horton: Radical
        > Hillbilly":
        > http://vimeo.com/30650519
        >
        > It is a Bill Moyers journal and the nice part about it is
        most of it
        > is Moyers interviewing Horton. From what little I know, it
        seems to
        > give a very good sense for the man.
        >
        > -greg
        >
        >
        >
        > On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Goncu, Artin <goncu@uic.edu
        <mailto:goncu@uic.edu> <mailto:goncu@uic.edu
        <mailto:goncu@uic.edu>>
        > <mailto:goncu@uic.edu <mailto:goncu@uic.edu>
        <mailto:goncu@uic.edu <mailto:goncu@uic.edu>>>> wrote:
        >
        >
        >
        >    Yes, this information is much appreciated. ag
        >
        >
        >    On Sun, August 24, 2014 7:29 pm, Andy Blunden wrote:
        >    > Thanks Greg. That does work better. :)
        >    > Very tantalizing for me. I have no doubt that
        everything I need
        >    is in
        >    > those boxes. :)
        >    > Andy
        >    >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
        >    > *Andy Blunden*
        >    > http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
        <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
        <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
        >    <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
        >    >
        >    >
        >    > Greg Thompson wrote:
        >    >> I think a "d" was missing at the beginning of the link
        you sent
        >    Robert.
        >    >>
        >    >> Here is full link:
        >    >>
        >    >>
> http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search
        <http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search>
        <http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search
        <http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search>>
> <http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search
        <http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search>
        <http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search
        <http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search>>>
        >    >>
> <http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search
        <http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search>
        <http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search
        <http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search>>
> <http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search
        <http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search>
        <http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search
        <http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search>>>>
        >    >>
        >    >> Fantastic resource!
        >    >>
        >    >> Thanks,
        >    >> greg
        >    >>
        >    >>
        >    >> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Robert Lake
        >    >> <boblake@georgiasouthern.edu
        <mailto:boblake@georgiasouthern.edu>
        <mailto:boblake@georgiasouthern.edu
        <mailto:boblake@georgiasouthern.edu>>
        >    <mailto:boblake@georgiasouthern.edu
        <mailto:boblake@georgiasouthern.edu>
        <mailto:boblake@georgiasouthern.edu
        <mailto:boblake@georgiasouthern.edu>>>
        >    <mailto:boblake@georgiasouthern.edu
        <mailto:boblake@georgiasouthern.edu>
        <mailto:boblake@georgiasouthern.edu
        <mailto:boblake@georgiasouthern.edu>>
        >    <mailto:boblake@georgiasouthern.edu
        <mailto:boblake@georgiasouthern.edu>
        <mailto:boblake@georgiasouthern.edu
        <mailto:boblake@georgiasouthern.edu>>>>>

        >    >> wrote:
        >    >>
        >    >>    Hi Andy and Everyone,
        >    >>    Here is the link to the digital archives for
        Highlander at the
        >    >>    University
        >    >>    of Wisconsin.
        >    >>
> >> > igicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search
        <http://igicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search>
> <http://igicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search
        <http://igicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search>
        <http://igicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search
        <http://igicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search>>>
> >> > <http://igicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search
        <http://igicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search>
        <http://igicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search
        <http://igicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search>>


> <http://igicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search
        <http://igicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search>
        <http://igicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search
        <http://igicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi/f/findaid/findaid-idx?c=wiarchives&cc=wiarchives&type=simple&rgn=Entire+Finding+Aid&q1=myles+horton+papers&location=all&Submit=Search>>>>
        >    >>
        >    >>
        >    >>    On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Andy Blunden
        >    <ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
        <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>
        <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
        <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>>
        >    >>    <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
        <mailto:ablunden@mira.net> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
        <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
        <mailto:ablunden@mira.net> <mailto:ablunden@mira.net
        <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>>>> wrote:
        >    >>
        >    >>    > Robert,
        >    >>    > I have a memoir written by Angeline Butler about
        her time at
        >    >>    Highlander in
        >    >>    > 1959 before joining SNCC and she reports being taught
        >    consensus
        >    >>    > decision-making. I know Horton placed a lot of
        emphasis on
        >    >>    forcing students
        >    >>    > to make their own decisions, and I have a memoir
        from an
        >    African
        >    >>    student at
        >    >>    > the International Peoples College at Helsingor on
        which
        >    Horton
        >    >> based
        >    >>    > Highlander, which tells of a specific exercise in
        consensus
        >    >> decision
        >    >>    > making. I think it may have come under the heading of
        >    "conflict
        >    >>    > resolution". What I don't have is any independent
        >    corroboration
        >    >>    of Angeline
        >    >>    > Butler's testimony and nor do Horton's notes
        about what
        >    he learnt
        >    >> at
        >    >>    > Helsingor mention conflict resolution or any kind of
        >    >>    decision-making.
        >    >>    > Mainly about bonding.
        >    >>    >
        >    >>    > Any thoughts?
        >    >>    > Andy
        >    >>    >
> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
        >    >>    > *Andy Blunden*
        >    >>    > http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
        <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
        <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
        >    <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
        >    >>    <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
        >    >>    >
        >    >>    >
        >    >>    > Robert Lake wrote:
        >    >>    >
        >    >>    >> Hi Andy,
        >    >>    >> Yes I do. Start with this .
        >    >>    >> http://highlandercenter.org/about-us/history/
        >    >>    >>
        >    >>    >> And this biography of Myles Horton
        >    >>    >>
        >    >>    >>
> http://www.amazon.com/The-Long-Haul-An-Autobiography/dp/0807737003
        >    >>    >> and the biography of Septima Clark.
        >    >>    >>
> >> >> http://www.amazon.com/Freedoms-Teacher-Life-Septima-
        >    >>    >> Clark/dp/0807872229/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=
        >    >>    >> 1408889271&sr=1-2&keywords=septima+clark
        >    <http://www.amazon.com/
        >    >>    >>
        Freedoms-Teacher-Life-Septima-Clark/dp/0807872229/ref=sr_1_
        >    >>    >>
> 2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1408889271&sr=1-2&keywords=septima+clark>
        >    >>    >>
        >    >>    >> I have written a piece on her as well and will
        send it this
        >    >>    afternoon.
        >    >>    >>
        >    >>    >>
        >    >>    >> I think the book We Make the Road by Walking: A
        dialogue
        >    >>    between Myles
        >    >>    >> Horton and Paulo Freire
        >    >>    >> is one of the best books on both these leaders.
        >    >>    >>
        >    >>    >> More Later,
        >    >>    >> Robert Lake
        >    >>    >>
        >    >>    >>
        >    >>    >> I will send more this afternoon.
        >    >>    >>
        >    >>    >>
        >    >>    >> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Andy Blunden
        >    >>    <ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
        <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>
        <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
        <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>>
        >    <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
        <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>
        <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
        <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>>> <mailto:


        >    >>    >> ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
        <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>
        <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
        <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>>
        >    <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
        <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>
        <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>
        <mailto:ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>>>>> wrote:
        >    >>    >>
        >    >>    >>    Does anyone on this list know about the
        Highlander
        >    Center,
        >    >> what
        >    >>    >>    used to be called the Highlander Folk School?
        >    >>    >>    The people there are very helpful, but
        they're also
        >    rushed
        >    >> off
        >    >>    >>    their feet (like everyone, I guess) and if there
        >    were any
        >    >> other
        >    >>    >>    sources of information about it, that would be
        >    helpful. I'm
        >    >>    >>    particularly interested if anyone is familiar
        with what
        >    >>    they were
        >    >>    >>    doing in the 1950s and 60s.
        >    >>    >>
        >    >>    >>    Andy
        >    >>    >>    --
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------
        >    >>    >> ------------
        >    >>    >>    *Andy Blunden*
        >    >>    >>    http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
        <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
        <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
        >    <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
        >    >>    <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
        >    >>    >>    <http://home.pacific.net.au/%7Eandy/>
        >    >>    >>
        >    >>    >>
        >    >>    >>
        >    >>    >>
        >    >>    >> --
        >    >>    >> *Robert Lake  Ed.D.
        >    >>    >> *Associate Professor
        >    >>    >> Social Foundations of Education
        >    >>    >> Dept. of Curriculum, Foundations, and Reading
        >    >>    >> Georgia Southern University
        >    >>    >> Secretary/Treasurer-AERA- Paulo Freire Special
        Interest
        >    Group
        >    >>    >> P. O. Box 8144
        >    >>    >> Phone: (912) 478-0355 <tel:%28912%29%20478-0355>
        <tel:%28912%29%20478-0355>
        >    <tel:%28912%29%20478-0355>
        >    >>    >> Fax: (912) 478-5382 <tel:%28912%29%20478-5382>
        <tel:%28912%29%20478-5382>
        >    <tel:%28912%29%20478-5382>
        >    >>    >> Statesboro, GA  30460
        >    >>    >>
        >    >>    >>
        >    >>    >>
        >    >>    >
        >    >>
        >    >>
        >    >>    --
        >    >>
        >    >>    *Robert Lake  Ed.D.*Associate Professor
        >    >>    Social Foundations of Education
        >    >>    Dept. of Curriculum, Foundations, and Reading
        >    >>    Georgia Southern University
        >    >>    Secretary/Treasurer-AERA- Paulo Freire Special
        Interest Group
        >    >>    P. O. Box 8144
        >    >>    Phone: (912) 478-0355 <tel:%28912%29%20478-0355>
        <tel:%28912%29%20478-0355>
        >    <tel:%28912%29%20478-0355>
        >    >>    Fax: (912) 478-5382 <tel:%28912%29%20478-5382>
        <tel:%28912%29%20478-5382>
        >    >>    Statesboro, GA  30460
        >    >>
        >    >>
        >    >>
        >    >>
        >    >> --
        >    >> Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
        >    >> Assistant Professor
        >    >> Department of Anthropology
        >    >> 882 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
        >    >> Brigham Young University
        >    >> Provo, UT 84602
        >    >> http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
        >    >
        >    >
        >
        >
        >    Artin Goncu, Ph.D
        >    Co-editor, Mind, Culture, and Activity:An International
        Journal
        >    Professor Emeritus,
        >    University of Illinois at Chicago
        >    College of Education M/C 147
        >    1040 W. Harrison St.
        >    Chicago, IL 60607
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > --
        > Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
        > Assistant Professor
        > Department of Anthropology
        > 882 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
        > Brigham Young University
        > Provo, UT 84602
        > http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson







--
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Assistant Professor
Department of Anthropology
882 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
Brigham Young University
Provo, UT 84602
http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson