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[Xmca-l] Re: The ideal head



I agree that a monumental crisis takes place between the age of 2 and 3. I wouldn't call it the "terrible twos," but I think it results from the "language explosion" that often occurs at that age. A child learns that all these sounds s/he has been hearing can be used meaningfully as a tool for exerting control on the world around him/her and faces a crisis in how to use them. 

I think the crisis around 6 years old comes from the understanding that what one does in the world has consequences. That change, as I understand it, is the basis for laws that place the age of culpability around 5-6 in the U.S. (In many U.S. states, children under this age can't be charged with a crime because they don't have the capability to understand that they've done something wrong.) Perhaps there are other suggestions? And what typifies the crisis at 1? How is it biological? 

Katie

Katie Wester-Neal
University of Georgia

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Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: The ideal head

The one at 2-2.5 is easy - "terrible twos"? :-)
Is this just a myth though?

More seriously, there do appear to developmental milestones however:
Use of and ambivalence in Yes / No?
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Peter (father of three)
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On Wed, 30/7/14, Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: The ideal head
 To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
 Date: Wednesday, 30 July, 2014, 18:30

 Martin,
 Vygotsky's Problem of Age is a difficult
 essay. I wonder if you could say a
 bit more
 about the crisis at 6 (7,8?) years and the one at 12 years?
 The
 others are fairly self explanatory but
 those two are a bit more
 complicated. Among
 other things, it isn't clear what is different about
 the
 crisis at 2.5 and the crisis at 6.
 -greg


 On
 Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 6:44 AM, Martin John Packer <mpacker@uniandes.edu.co
 > wrote:

 > Though in other texts he wrote of
 adolescence as such a time of crisis
 >
 that the whole stage should be considered a transition. In
 the lectures on
 > child development
 Vygotsky describes the following crises:
 >
 > Birth: the child is
 differentiated physically
 > 1 year: the
 child is differentiated biologically
 >
 2.5 years: the child is differentiated psychologically
 > 6 years: inside & outside of self are
 differentiated
 > 12 years: actual &
 possible selves are differentiated
 >
 > Martin
 >
 > On Jul 28, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Andy Blunden
 <ablunden@mira.net>
 wrote:
 >
 > >
 Francis, most of the crises which Vygotsky mentions in
 > > http://www.marxists.org/archive/vygotsky/works/1934/problem-age.htm
 > > are associated with childhood before
 school. (It is an unfinished work).
 >
 > Andy
 > >
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
 > > *Andy Blunden*
 >
 > http://home.pacific.net.au/~andy/
 > >
 > >
 > > FRANCIS J. SULLIVAN wrote:
 > >> ...
 >
 >>
 > >> In any case, I wonder
 if Vygotsky considered whether schooling itself
 > might
 > >> be
 responsible, at least partly, for the child's apparent
 alienation
 > from
 >
 >> schooling at these moments.
 >
 >>
 > >> Francis J. Sullivan,
 Ph.D.
 > >>
 > >
 >
 >
 >


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