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[Xmca-l] Re: Fwd: NYTimes.com: Why Do Americans Stink at Math?


The article explored multiple themes. The common core math curriculum was
one theme.
However, the article was also exploring developing the *craft* of teaching
through *shared practices* where teachers are secure enough to engage in
dialogue concerning the way they approach teaching. The focus on
*showing to say*  actually demonstrating their *craft* and others engaging
in the micro observations which could assist in the person developing their
It was the theme of creating institutional structures and the type of
social material practices where teachers invite other teachers to observe
their *lessons*.
A central point was that in North America the teachers spend 1000 to 1100
hours a year giving *lessons*  while in many other countries it is 700
I'm wondering how teaching would develop if those other 300 hours were used
in *developing the craft* in institutions where this shared practice was
vital and honoured.

The common core as pre-scribed targets is another theme which I agree works
against schools as places instituting situations which cultivate [old
fashioned term for culture] the teaching craft through the method of
*showing to say*

Yow do we disentangle these two opposing themes expressed in this article?
As I read the article I was struck by how different the day to day
practices of schooling are *cultivated* [bildung] within different cultural

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 5:27 AM, Glassman, Michael <glassman.13@osu.edu>

> A couple of things about this article,
> "The same pattern played out in the 1960s, when schools gripped by a
> post-Sputnik inferiority complex unveiled an ambitious “new math,” only to
> find, a few years later, that nothing actually changed."
> Uhmmm... object oriented programming, the development of the personal
> computer, hypertext protocol transfer protocol, hypertext mark up language,
> the Palo Alto Research Center.  We had an entire information revolution
> that is in many ways driven by individuals who learned math under this
> system.  Is that the reason? Who knows, but probably a better choice than
> most.  New Math and other revolutions in teaching math and other things
> don't work for a number of reasons.   One is that learning math is linked
> to a number of other issues including your chaotic home life and (lack of
> nutrition).  One of the reasons these new approaches to Mathematics don't
> work is because we immediately want to test whether it works.  But if you
> are teaching so students do better on tests you are doing stuff that is
> antithetical to the types of approaches to teaching what are being
> discussed (at least I would argue).  We should not forget that Common Core
> is directly tied to testing, again and again.  They are implementing
> testing before even developing curriculum for Godsakes!!!  So basically you
> are sowing the failure to Common Core right into its beginnings.
> The danger with the Common Core, which I see in this article, is that it
> treats education, including mathematics education, as a machine rather than
> a transactional field.  In spit of what people say about getting students
> to really understand math the goal is to get students to do better on the
> Standards test.  It is narrow and mechanistic.
> Michael
> ________________________________________
> From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu]
> on behalf of Larry Purss [lpscholar2@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:55 AM
> To: Mike Cole; eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> Subject: [Xmca-l] Re: Fwd: NYTimes.com: Why Do Americans Stink at Math?
> Mike, Andy,
> Yes, a great article.
>   The insights that were generated by a person from Japan observing the
> degree of *private* individual classroom teaching [with the
> resulting isolation of teachers in America] in contrast to Japanese
> teachers engaging in ongoing *lesson* dialogues.
> The centrality of ongoing *lesson talk* as what is needed to sustain change
> contrasts with the common practices of teachers in American schools left to
> figure out best practice alone.
> How do we shift our practices in schools to encourage ongoing dialogical
> *lesson talk* among teachers?
> Larry
> On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 9:44 PM, mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com> wrote:
> > This story about the resistance to common core standards may be of
> interest
> > to several members of xmca.
> > Note that Sylvia Scribner appears in the story (!).
> > mike
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