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[Xmca-l] Re: Electronic version of Luria book



Mike,
I downloaded Luria's book and have finished the introductory first chapter.
It is very clearly outlining the assumption that BOTH  *organization* and
*disorganization* can be re-searched through the same methods. This is in
contrast to difficulties in viewing difficulties in living as the result of
*symptoms* [a form of nominalism as merely *describing* the qualities of
the named symptoms]. as a method of understanding

I would recommend others read Luria's first chapter and his understanding
of *affective* struggles as framed within a notion of *disorganization* of
functional dynamic systems. This orientation as contrasted to an approach
of merely describing *symptoms* to try to understand affective conflicts

Larry


On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 8:25 PM, mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com> wrote:

> I believe the section I indicated has an example that is close enough to
> the one you provided to be able to think with it.
>
> Maybe not, but hope its useful.
> mike
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 8:19 PM, Helena Worthen <helenaworthen@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Thank you, MIke. I read some of this book back in about 1994 and was
> > amazed by some of the experiments they undertook. I will get back into
> it.
> >
> > Helena
> >
> >
> > Helena Worthen
> > helenaworthen@gmail.com
> >
> > On Jul 24, 2014, at 6:30 PM, mike cole wrote:
> >
> > > Helena-- I poked around after making the suggestion concerning Luria's
> > > discussion of "will power" and found a free electronic version here:
> > > https://archive.org/details/natureofhumancon032984mbp
> > >
> > > There is an even cleaner copy at marxists dot org but could not
> download
> > > it. Maybe you will have better luck.
> > >
> > > The book is, I believe, of interest in its entirety, but the last few
> > > chapters begin to show the increasing influence of LSV on Luria and the
> > > last chapter in particular displays that influence, along with the
> > > influence of Lewin. Anyway, you can check out for yourself if the
> > examples
> > > he gives on the fruitlessness of "just trying harder" are useful or
> not.
> > >
> > > mike
> >
> >
>