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[Xmca-l] Re: Playing with/at TED



Huw -- You're right, the TED forum is not a platform for critical engagement between theory and application of theory. It's a platform for provoking (hopefully) interest in things that are undergirded, behind the scenes, by theory.  

I do not agree that this makes the concept of play un-theoretical or that popularizing a concept divests it of significance, even theoretical significance. I do, however, believe that theory can be presented in a way that is broadly accessible and explicit.  It's true that Lois does not try to do that.  

Helena

Helena Worthen
helenaworthen@gmail.com
hworthen@illinois.edu

On Jun 20, 2014, at 10:26 AM, Huw Lloyd wrote:

> On 20 June 2014 14:57, Carol Macdonald <carolmacdon@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I meant that the the members of our community are serious.
>> 
>> Is Lois not capable of critical thinking? I have been involved in
>> popularising theoretical concepts, does that make them less critical?
>> 
> 
> Well, a theoretical concept is only theoretical if you embrace it
> theoretically.  In the mode of popularising it may indeed lose its
> significance until it is taken up as an object of inquiry.
> 
> TED is not a platform for such inquiry.  Hence the consequences of medium ("not
> being academic but saying something new") and message (theoretical content
> not treated as such).
> 
> When I watched some of the video, I got the impression that play was being
> overdone somewhat, but there's no forum for engaging critically with the
> content itself, because that is not what the forum is about.
> 
> Hope that helps,
> Huw
> 
> 
>> 
>> Carol
>> 
>> 
>> On 20 June 2014 14:04, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 19 June 2014 20:57, Carol Macdonald <carolmacdon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Well Lois
>>>> 
>>>> That was splendid, awesome! All you serious XMCAers please watch.
>>>> 
>>>> Carol
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> What do you mean by "serious", Carol?  This is a TED talk.  Seriousness
>> and
>>> critical thinking are not part of the agenda.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Huw
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 19 June 2014 13:48, Lois Holzman <lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Here's the link, Carol.
>>>>> http://tedxnavesink.com/project/lois-holzman/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lois Holzman
>>>>> Director, East Side Institute for Group & Short Term Psychotherapy
>>>>> 104-106 South Oxford Street
>>>>> Brooklyn, New York 11217
>>>>> Chair, Global Outreach, All Stars Project, UX
>>>>> Tel. +1.212.941.8906 x324
>>>>> Fax +1.718.797.3966
>>>>> lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org
>>>>> Social Media
>>>>> Facebook | LinkedIn | Twitter
>>>>> Blogs
>>>>> Psychology Today| Psychology of Becoming | ESI Community News
>>>>> Websites
>>>>> Lois Holzman | East Side Institute | Performing the World
>>>>> All Stars Project
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 19, 2014, at 3:02 AM, Carol Macdonald <carolmacdon@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Louis
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please could you send the link again?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Carol
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 19 June 2014 01:03, Lois Holzman <
>> lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>> Peter kindly posted a link to a talk I gave last month at a TEDx
>>>>>>> event--TEDxNavesink Play.
>>>>>>> Aside from the prep being among the hardest things I've ever done
>>>>> (staying
>>>>>>> within their rules and structure, not being academic but saying
>>>>> something
>>>>>>> new for people to think about, and more), it was a delight to be
>>> with
>>>>> folks
>>>>>>> who appreciate and value play--many of whom are affording people
>> in
>>>>> their
>>>>>>> communities with the opportunity to play in all kinds of ways. It
>>> was
>>>>>>> really growthful for me and my team. I was really pleased to
>>> reconnect
>>>>> with
>>>>>>> Peter Gray after many years and to meet other good people. The
>>> one-day
>>>>>>> event was organized are 4 P's--possibility, pleasure, progress and
>>>>> paradox.
>>>>>>> I invite you all to include these talks within your conversation
>>>>> here--even
>>>>>>> though they're not theoretical. Maybe it's a new kind of play for
>>>> many.
>>>>>>> Lois
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Lois Holzman
>>>>>>> Director, East Side Institute for Group & Short Term Psychotherapy
>>>>>>> 104-106 South Oxford Street
>>>>>>> Brooklyn, New York 11217
>>>>>>> Chair, Global Outreach, All Stars Project, UX
>>>>>>> Tel. +1.212.941.8906 x324
>>>>>>> Fax +1.718.797.3966
>>>>>>> lholzman@eastsideinstitute.org
>>>>>>> Social Media
>>>>>>> Facebook | LinkedIn | Twitter
>>>>>>> Blogs
>>>>>>> Psychology Today| Psychology of Becoming | ESI Community News
>>>>>>> Websites
>>>>>>> Lois Holzman | East Side Institute | Performing the World
>>>>>>> All Stars Project
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Carol A  Macdonald Ph D (Edin)
>>>>>> Developmental psycholinguist
>>>>>> Academic, Researcher,  and Editor
>>>>>> Honorary Research Fellow: Department of Linguistics, Unisa
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Carol A  Macdonald Ph D (Edin)
>>>> Developmental psycholinguist
>>>> Academic, Researcher,  and Editor
>>>> Honorary Research Fellow: Department of Linguistics, Unisa
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Carol A  Macdonald Ph D (Edin)
>> Developmental psycholinguist
>> Academic, Researcher,  and Editor
>> Honorary Research Fellow: Department of Linguistics, Unisa
>>