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I could not open the paper...

On Jun 15, 2014, at 4:35 PM, mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi David--
> 
> The reason I passed this paper along is that the following passage from the
> abstract attracted me and the examples given of the confusions about theory
> in the text resonated with a lot of writing I have encountered not only in
> submitted articles, but in graduate student writings up to and including
> dissertations.
> 
> I agree with the fictional consensus the authors identify.
> consensus that references, data, variables, diagrams, and hypotheses are not
> theory. Despite this consensus, however, authors routinely use these five
> elements in lieu of theory.
> 
> I was not advocating their notion of good theory. That is a separate and
> very important issue and you know full well that I take Dilthey seriously
> -- as Luria and Vygotsky, in their ways, taught me to do.
> 
> If there is interest in the group, we could use the article to take our
> discussion that direction. Seems worthwhile to me.
> 
> But, I think we have to acknowledge that the same way the authors find
> sloppy reasoning about theory is to be found routinely in articles and
> essays by ourselves and our students.
> 
> So, I guess, I think the paper if useful for there critique of writing
> practices summed up as what is not a theory (given their version of a
> causal social science). If it provokes us to understand better what sorts
> of claims we want to make in the articles we write, and how to be clearer
> to ourselves, I am for it.
> mike
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 1:31 AM, David Kellogg <dkellogg60@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Mike:
>> 
>> This article struck me as theoretically naive. First of all, the whole
>> idea of articles without theory is a little silly, particularly for anybody
>> who has taken Chapter Two of Thinking and Speech and Vygotsky's critique of
>> Piaget's atheoretism on board. Secondly, the idea that "why" questions and
>> a focus on causality is a hallmark of theory essentially writes off the
>> whole of Dilthey, descriptivism, structuralism and post-structuralism. You
>> might not agree with this line of thought and body of work, but to deny it
>> status as theory seems pointless.
>> 
>> I must admit, though, the whole genre of editors and reviewers
>> who repackage as articles their complaints about having to review articles
>> by professors who are desperate to publish is rather puzzling to me. There
>> are plenty of other channels for this sort of thing, e.g. reviews, pub
>> discussions, and even xmca. But perhaps they too  are desperate to publish.
>> Or am I being compulsively cynical?
>> 
>> David Kellogg
>> Hankuk University of Foreign Studies
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 15 June 2014 02:13, mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I recommend this paper on what theory is not. It touches on a number of
>>> issues that we encounter a good deal in reviewing manuscripts sent to MCA.
>>> I am forwarding from
>>> Ilya Garber's discussion group with thanks to Ilya for posting.
>>> mike
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Ilya Garber posted in Методология и история психологии
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>>> 10:02am
>>> Jun 14
>>> Практически в каждой журнальной статье по психологии есть теоретический
>>> раздел. Два опытных и умных редактора объяснили, что не является теорией.
>>> Must read.
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