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[Xmca-l] Re: Public Academics and its risks



The Shotter article is labeled a "first draft" dated 2006. Has it been
published to anyone's knowledge? If so, where?

Although this seems of a piece with his other writings the latest
bibliographic reference in this paper to Shotter's other writings is 1997 -
and this is, indeed, the latest dated reference to anyone - except for a
reference to Shotter (in press) in the notes - note 31 - but no
bibliographic clue to its whereabouts.

On his website an article which might be the one referenced is indicated as
to appear in the "Journal of Collaborative Practices" - no date.*

* (tracked it down - Issue 3 of that journal - 2012).


On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 2:17 AM, Larry Purss <lpscholar2@gmail.com> wrote:

> Greg
> An idea that I share may be utopian [ it is an ideal] which  comes from
> reading an article by John Shotter where he offers commentary on
> Voloshinov's dialogical approach to academic advancement of knowledge
> This approach sees academic practices as dialogically responding &
>  informing each other as each perspective adds [aspects] to our ongoing
> shared conversations.
> Here is a link to the article
>
>
> http://www.johnshotter.com/papers/voloshinov%20instead%20of%20theory%20final.pdf
>
> What I found intriguing is Volohinov proposes a *way* of reading and
> engaging our differences in theories in a spirit of dialogical question and
> answer.
> If this model was more prevalent in our re-search then our differences
> could be embraced as sharing common questions. Very utopian, but Vygotsky,
> Gadamer, Bahktin, Voloshinov seemed to show this style of engagement it
> fits into a particular TYPE or STYLE of scholarship that puts questions
> into circulation for further elaboration.
>
> Is this approach to advancing knowledge money is probably scarce, so I'm
> not sure how to sustain this way of orienting our practices?
> Larry
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Greg Thompson <greg.a.thompson@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > and there is another story that runs somewhat parallel to this that
> > involves academics at the front end of their careers:
> >
> >
> http://www.insidehighered.com/advice/2014/03/10/essay-about-inability-find-tenure-track-job-academe
> >
> > the author, Patrick Iber, doesn't explicitly mention a failure to bring
> in
> > big money, but one suspects that this might have been one of the big
> knocks
> > against him considering that he teaches courses like "Artists,
> > Intellectuals, and Social Change in Latin America" (see his blog at:
> > http://patrickiber.blogspot.com/). Not likely to bring in the big grants
> > with that...
> >
> > It is a nasty world out there. Anyone have any ideas how to make it
> better?
> >
> > -greg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Glassman, Michael <glassman.13@osu.edu
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > How extraordinarily painful.  The fact that one of the richest
> > > universities in the world fired the found of the National Coalition for
> > the
> > > Homeless because he couldn't bring in 80% of his salary from grants
> > > suggests something has gone very wrong with our collective enterprise.
> > >  There was a time when people used to say we must support cynicism in
> > going
> > > after money because it can support nobler endeavors.  Now.....
> > >
> > > Buy a writer a beer on a hot day and he or she will tell you the three
> > > unalterable rules of the universe without much prodding.
> > >
> > > Never eat at a place called moms.
> > >
> > > Never play cards with a guy named Doc
> > >
> > > and Never get into a relationship with somebody who has more problems
> > that
> > > you.
> > >
> > > Perhaps we need to add a fourth.
> > >
> > > Never make a deal with the devil because in the end the devil always
> > comes
> > > out ahead.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > > ________________________________________
> > > From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu
> ]
> > > on behalf of mike cole [lchcmike@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 2:46 PM
> > > To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> > > Subject: [Xmca-l]  Public Academics and its risks
> > >
> > > This article seems relevant to prior discussion on the topic of public
> > > engagement by academics. The issue is especially tricky when working on
> > > soft money, but.......
> > >
> > > mike
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.thenation.com/article/178821/columbia-university-fired-two-eminent-public-intellectuals-heres-why-it-matters#
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Gregory A. Thompson, Ph.D.
> > Assistant Professor
> > Department of Anthropology
> > 883 Spencer W. Kimball Tower
> > Brigham Young University
> > Provo, UT 84602
> > http://byu.academia.edu/GregoryThompson
> >
>
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