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Re: [xmca] Banners of Brazil

Hi, everyone!
For Brazilian standards, being in a movement does not simply mean moving and shouting, it means talking, discussing, disagreeing, finding new people to talk to and to agree and disagree with. The most important thing in this movement, in my opinion, is not the fact that people are going to the streets but the fact that, no matter what rank of life, people are discussing and believing in their power of protesting. There has been the most amazing things going on: skatists fighting for the right to use the streets for their purposes, millionaires in front of the governor's house fighting for more security for the district where they have their mansions, very poor people demanding the reconstruction of roads long not taken care of. I believe that in the Brazilian context, going to the streets to claim for the 20 cents and all the other issues or staying home on the internet discussing them have the effect that electing a worker had, 12 years ago. In a collective perezivanie, people start to believe in themselves as capable of going beyond, of transforming who they are into who they can become. I believe this is the greatest result of this movement just as it was the greatest result of Lula's election in 2002. 

Best.

Fernanda



On 6/25/13 10:23 AM, Andy Blunden wrote:

Cristiano, Achilles, and everyone,
We see a lot of marching in the streets. But while this has an important function in drawing people out of their homes and gathering them together, especially when there is violence it can have the effect also of excluding a lot of people, and actually, marching doesn't involve a lot of talking. With "alliance politics" of the kind which is in the ascendant today, different projects can agree on very limited and specific goals (e.g. we will march to the President's Palace at 2pm on Saturday), while not being able to agree on anything else. This politics opens the way for deeper engagement, but does not in itself achieve that. So,...
Are there any new discursive forms of practice - mock parliaments, community forums, school occupation committees, etc or whatever emerging? 

Andy

mattos@if.usp.br wrote:
There is much we can talk about and reflect on this Brazilian collective phenomenon.
We could propose multiple and combined "germ cells" or to infer what emerging agendas will resist in the ?day after".
But, what is clear is that there was a potential social configuration that has suffered a phase transition, and mediated by different means of mediation, many self-organized, creating crowds moving by pseudopods, spreading through the cities with different leading motives or interests, a kind of new born organism learning to be yourself in its on ?inconclusion?.
There was more than 20 years since we had this kind of movement in Brazil, it is a long time considering the social tragedy we live in our daily lives, the crazy tension of living between the medieval and ultra-modern times and praxis.
For me, considering my "nanogenesis", the worth was witnessing the emergence of consciousness in my daughters (11 and 13 years old), on the possibility of the social collective action aiming to transform the immediately given even with different motives and interests.
For those who believe that from first neighbor interaction could emerge on long range interactions and on phase system?s transitions, I think that all of this could be the start of something different from the sameness and hopelessness our people were living. 

Best for all, Cristiano.


Cristiano Mattos
Departamento de Física Experimental
Instituto de Física - USP
Caixa Postal:66318 - CEP:05315-970
São Paulo - SP - Brazil
Tel: (+55)11 3091-7077
e-mail: mattos@if.usp.br


Quoting "Andy Blunden" <ablunden@mira.net>:
For sure, Achilles, we cannot at all see the "unit of analysis" or "germ cell" of this movement, or what project(s) will emerge from it. I suspect that will take some time before that is discernible. In ascending from the concrete of perception to the abstract, we at least can see here a glimpse of the enormous diversity of views and situations which are activated by the protest originally against the rise in bus fares! 

Watch this space!! :)

Andy

Achilles Delari Junior wrote:
Sure. But this is only a little elementary fragment of the whole, not necessarily a unit... I guess the unit is not the undiscriminated topics of the agenda, itself. But the contradiction between this first character against a (explicit or not) trying of political conduction of all (which is also in process of polarization)... 
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 11:38:24 +1000
From: ablunden@mira.net
To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
Subject: [xmca] Banners of Brazil
I think everyone on this list will appreciate this glimpse into the consciousness of the current movement in Brazil. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/06/21/world/americas/brazil-protest-signs.html?ref=americas 


Andy
(as well as the cool javascript)
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