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Re: [xmca] Polls are closed: Manfred Holodynsk's article is choice

On 17 March 2013 12:15, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:

> Robert, if I were to suggest that "mirror neurons" are a metaphyical
> belief which have no more basis in existence than phlogiston or ether,
> would that actually change anything? Have you ever been misled by the
> mistaken observation of "mirror neuron" activity, or has observation of a
> mirror neuron ever explained some otherwise inexplicable event? So far as I
> know, leaving aside surgical intervention, neurons only react to other
> neurons by direct electrochemical interaction.
> Andy
>
>
There's theoretical room for the rest of the electromagnetic spectrum, e.g.
optics.    I think Robert is referring to the whites of the eyes phenomena
observed in monkey(?) brain scans.

In this sense its ontological status is that one can draw a dotted line
around a scan image etc and name it.

As far as the autism line of reasoning goes, I guess its akin to the
phenomena of blindness in children who have (unfortunately) have had a
patch over their eye during particular neurological developments whereby
they are later unable to see out of what looks like a perfectly functioning
eye.

I will leave it to Robert to speculate on the social genesis of its
systemic relevance...

Best,
Huw



> Robert Lake wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>> I am a relative newcomer to CHAT research, so this (mostly rhetorical)
>> question is probably
>> old hat to many of you. It concerns Holodynski's article as it may or may
>> not relate to the notion of mirror neurons as described by Ramachandran.
>>
>> http://www.ted.com/talks/vs_**ramachandran_the_neurons_that_**
>> shaped_civilization.html<http://www.ted.com/talks/vs_ramachandran_the_neurons_that_shaped_civilization.html>
>>
>>
>> If I understand this correctly, in Holodynski's view, a caregiver mirrors
>> back to the child, his or her own emotions through gesture and facial
>> expressions. What if the child's emotions/expressions fall into the range
>> of autism spectrum disorders? Can ZPD's be created that in turn help create
>> and develop "empathy" neurons in us regardless of our age level? Are there
>> some cultures that are more emotionally and perhaps empathically evolved?
>>
>> Thank-you MCA team  and Professor Holodynski for this article. I think it
>> represents the a key component for the future of cultural/historical
>> research.
>>
>> Fascinated and curious,
>> Robert Lake
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net<mailto:
>> ablunden@mira.net>> wrote:
>>
>>     The article for discussion is now available at:
>>     http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/**Journal/pdfs/20-1-holodynski.**pdf<http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/Journal/pdfs/20-1-holodynski.pdf>
>>
>>
>>     Andy
>>
>>     mike cole wrote:
>>
>>         We will make available Manfred Holodynski's article - The
>>         Internalization
>>         Theory of Emotions: A Cultural Historical Approach to the
>>         Development of Emotions - available
>>         for discussion as soon as possible. Then let the discussion begin!
>>
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