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Re: [xmca] PsyAnima Complete Vygotsky (PsyAnima & Vygotsky's pre-psychology drama and book reviews)



Thank you for these excellent resources. Chuck

Anton Yasnitsky wrote:
Thanks for asking: a nice question indeed!

As you might have noticed, the problems of Vygotsky's contribution into literary and theatrical criticism, and, later, related issues of psychology of art, language and literature are among the topmost research and publication priorities of PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological Journal, which appears to be not only a publication outlet, but also a major research centre in Vygotskian Studies.

The problem with Vygotsky's involvement in these issues is that we have to deal with *at least* three different Vygotskies here:

* the one of 1916, the time of Hamlet paper: a student in humanities, fascinated with the issues of literature and Jewish culture, and fairly critical of the ideas of socialism and communism, * the one of 1922-1925, the time of pre-psychological and early psychological writings on theatre, literature, and art: ardent supporter of new regime, Bolshevik activist and junior representative of the Bolshevik Narkompros government

* the one of 1932-1934, the time of the last chapter of Thinking and speech: still ardent supporter of Bolshevik ideas, but somewhat disappointed and, possibly, somewhat disillusioned in the course of events such as:
external political-scientific establishment and
internal highly self-critical post-1920s attitude towards the way his scientific theory was developing then.

The three Vygotkies are all dealing with language, literature and art, but all three in distinctly different ways. We still do not know how we could make sense out of all these data, -- but keep trying.

Thus, PsyAnima has already published a couple of papers by Mal'tsev and Kotik-Friedgut, both in Russian and both mainly descriptive, on Vygotsky's early, "pre-psychological" newspaper publications. Another paper, on Vygotsky's Hamlet, in Portuguese, English and Russian, will come out in the forthcoming issue of the journal. Still, we are only beginning to systematically explore these fascinating topics, and in the nearest future PsyAnima hopes to receive a series of publications of the kind, mostly --but not exclusively! --from South American scholars who appear to be most enthusiastic about this kind of research. Another paper might arrive on the later, post-WWII developments of Vygotskian thinking in linguistics, but this one might be dealing
mostly with Luria.

So, just a reminder: PsyAnima is very supportive of such studies and is most interested in paper submissions,
in English or virtually any other language, on the topic of
Vygotsky as Art and Literary Scholar. So, practically speaking, an excerpt from an unpublished book manuscript or, alternatively, an overview of a forthcoming book might potentially be quite an interesting contribution.

AY

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*From:* Chuck Bazerman <bazerman@education.ucsb.edu>
*To:* lchcmike@gmail.com; "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
*Cc:* Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 6:29:51 PM
*Subject:* Re: [xmca] PsyAnima Complete Vygotsky (What shall we do now?)

Is anything being done about his pre-psychology drama and book reviews?
Since language and literacy turned out to be so crucial to his later
development, these might be of some value in understanding some of his
approach.  I know I have found the psychology of art quite useful--and
have made some commentary on the translated version connecting it to
some of his later thinking.  This is in a book manuscript which I am
hoping to publish next year.
Chuck

mike cole wrote:
> I'll set about doing some scanning, Anton.
> mike
>
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com <mailto:the_yasya@yahoo.com>>wrote:
>
> >> Sure Mike: as it has been announced, ALL items on the list of Vygotsky's
>> works published during his lifetime
>> will be electonically republished in different formats (i.e. as scans and
>> as text files in doc, html, and/or pdf)
>> in the near future. So, any originals of Vygotsky will be gladly and most
>> gratefully accepted.
>>
>> Our definite priority at this point is:
>> (a) larger works, such as books and paper collections
>> (b) that were not included --or were most ferociously distorted-- in the
>> six-volume Collected Works
>>
>> Thus, for instance, "Pedologiia podrostka" [Paedology of adolescent] (vols
>> 1 & 2, 1929 & 1930 respectively)
>> or, for example, "defectological" volume of collected works of various
>> authors, edited by Vygotsky (1924),
>> are already online, accessible 24/7. Neither has ever been republished
>> until now. The rest of the kind will follow.
>>
>> However, other works -- smaller or relatively unharmed by Soviet editions
>> -- are also of considerable interest.
>>
>> Luria, as well as virtually any other member of Vygotsky Circle, is of
>> enormous interest, and many thanks for your offer.
>> Yet, his works -- for copyright reasons -- should be treated with certain
>> care. I should think it over.
>>
>> A "small collection of 1920's Russian journals", however, is of tremendous
>> interest, so the more you might have
>> in any scanned format -- as collections of image files (tiff, png, jpeg,
>> etc.) or one file pdf -- the better!
>> These are absolutely invaluable and will be uploaded among other journal
>> materials that we currently
>> have access to. Just please let me know the concrete details of these
>> publications whenever you feel
>> you might be able to get them scanned/copied/shared, etc. Alternatively,
>> in case of any complications,
>> we could provide scanning as soon as PsyAnima team has access to these
>> materials.
>>
>> Izvestia APN that you mentioned are in principle also available, but not
>> fully accessible yet.
>> PsyAnima can do quite a lot, virtually anything, but, unfortunately, not
>> all at the same time. So, this stuff will be released
>> somewhat later, in due time.
>>
>> Finally, Dubna might be a nice place that, incidentally, presently hosts
>> PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological Journal,
>> but it is not unlikely that in the foreseeable future the whole enterprise
>> eventually and entirely goes global and
>> looses its geographic denomination, becoming, thus, just a PsyAnima,
>> Psychological Journal :). Also, I truly hope
>> that neither Dubna nor any other place within Russian Federation will ever
>> become " the center of the universe",
>> which might looks like a pretty nightmarish perspective for the
>> civilization :).
>>
>> However, speaking of the " the center of the universe ", you are
>> certainly right in one respect:
>> it is the *PsyAnima* anonymous and globally distributed group of scholars,
>> experts and activists
>> that is going to soon become " the center of the universe ", indeed!
>>
>>
>> :)
>>
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com <mailto:lchcmike@gmail.com>>
>> *To:* Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com <mailto:the_yasya@yahoo.com>> >> *Cc:* "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu <mailto:xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>>; ulvi icil
>> <ulvi.icil@gmail.com <mailto:ulvi.icil@gmail.com>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 11:48:36 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [xmca] PsyAnima Complete Vygotsky (What shall we do now?)
>>
>> Do you have a list of texts you are anxious to reprint and make available,
>> Anton? I have made about all the Luria stuff in journal form available
>> online free. I do have copies of some of his books in English
>> or Russian. I have a small collection of various 1920's Russian journals I
>> obtained from Luria. Rossolimo
>> and others.
>>
>> Would pdfs of those materials be useful?
>>
>> I have been wondering about the availability of Izvestia APN for the
>> 1940's and 1950's. Do they exist in an accessible archive somewhere?
>>
>> Soon Dubna will be the center of the universe!
>>
>> mike
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 6:45 AM, Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com <mailto:the_yasya@yahoo.com>>wrote:
>>
>> More or less correct, Mike.
>>
>> In terms of support, here is the list of procedures, actions, and
>> operations that participation in the project involves:
>>
>> 1) acquiring (i.e. copying, borrowing, scanning, purchasing) the texts
>> 2) scanning
>> 3) text recognition: automated, manual and combination of both
>> 4) creating doc/pdf files: formatting , typesetting, etc.
>> 5) uploading and distributing the product online FREE OF CHARGE FOR THE
>> READERs
>>
>> That's basically it. Another set of activities is related to research
>> (historical, textological, theoretical, etc.) work,
>> then, importantly, translating this research into roughly half dozen
>> languages of international Vygotskian science,
>> thus, importantly, creating a layer of expert commentaries to the texts
>> (same issues as in research), --
>>
>> but all this is some sort of super-structure. The basis is the texts and,
>> having the texts, we can research or
>> translate, or even print them out :). But the core needs to be created
>> first.
>>
>> So, back to your question. We need any support that will help us to move
>> further--people, partners, sponsors--
>> whatever facilitates the development and improves the quality of the
>> project. We have had rumours about texts
>> instead of the texts for tooooo long. Enough: the time for action has come.
>>
>> AY
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com <mailto:lchcmike@gmail.com>>
>> *To:* Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com <mailto:the_yasya@yahoo.com>>; "eXtended Mind, Culture,
>> Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu <mailto:xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>>
>> *Cc:* ulvi icil <ulvi.icil@gmail.com <mailto:ulvi.icil@gmail.com>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:37:21 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [xmca] PsyAnima Complete Vygotsky
>>
>> It appears that you are lacking any support from the united states,
>> England, or Australia, Anton. Is that correct?
>>
>> If so, what sort of participation, support, and attention are you seeking?
>>
>> The text of a Luria text on monism and psychoanalysis that appears in the
>> Kornilov volume is available from a translation in Soviet Psychology, I
>> believe. It probably is not a translation up to your standards, but some
>> might find it useful.
>>
>> Good luck with your ambitious project.
>> mike
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com <mailto:the_yasya@yahoo.com>>wrote:
>>
>> Given that, as a series of recent studies most convincingly show, we do
>> not know what exactly "Russian Vygotsky" is,
>>
>> and what we have instead is a bunch of texts distorted and/or falsified by
>> their editors,  -- in other words --
>>
>> we do not have a reliable collection of *original* Vygotsky's works --
>>
>> certain amount of work needs to be done to dis- and un-cover the original
>> Vygotsky, in Russian, first.
>>
>>
>> Later, a similar English/ Portuguese/ Italian/ German/ French/ Spanish/
>> Hebrew/ Arabic/ Pharsi/ Turkish, etc.
>>
>> "Complete Vygotsky" project might be launched, if needed and if anybody is
>> interested. However, a solid
>>
>> foundation of original Russian texts is a prerequisite of any further
>> international developments of the kind.
>>
>> Also, comprehensive textological and historiographic work and a solid
>> layer of expert scholarly commentaries is a must
>> if we ever aim to have a major comprehensible collection of Vygotsky's
>> text, regardless of language,
>> that is, in Russian or in translation.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>  From: ulvi icil <ulvi.icil@gmail.com <mailto:ulvi.icil@gmail.com>>
>> To: Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com <mailto:the_yasya@yahoo.com>>; "eXtended Mind, Culture,
>> Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu <mailto:xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 10:35:34 AM
>> Subject: Re: [xmca] PsyAnima Complete Vygotsky
>>
>>
>> In Russian or in English?
>>
>> Ulvi
>>
>>
>>
>> 2012/11/14 Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com <mailto:the_yasya@yahoo.com>>
>>
>> Finally, complete works of L.S. Vygotsky are in press: PsyAnima Complete
>> Vygotsky --
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