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Re: [xmca] ISCAR Newsletter?



Strangely enough, Ron, my first contacts with Vygotskyan theory was with academic colleagues at the University of Melbourne, with whom I was interacting in the project of creating collaborative learning spaces. I knew about social constructionism, which I took to be Berger and post-modern critical theory (having only the vaguest knowledge of these things) but then from my colleagues, who were van der Veer and Valsiner types, I was surprised to find out that Vygotsky (whose name I knew from Ilyenkov) was also a constructivist (I have never properly separated the way those two words are used). So I then got a book out of the library on constructivist epistemology which said that there were dozens of varieties of constructivism, but that Vygotsky was a constructivist who took the collaboration of carer-child dyads as the basis for the social construction of knowledge, rather than the wider culture .... took me quite a while to find my bearings in all that mess.

I just think that we always have to allow a lot of latitude in understanding what people actually mean when they use a word in a given context. A word meaning is not a concept.

Andy

Ron Lubensky wrote:
Hi Andy,

I too thought the ISCAR newsletter interview article was very good. I especially liked your comparison of CHAT to interactionist approaches, which you and I have discussed before. One area that continues to be messy, as you suggest, is the relationship of CHAT to social constructIVism and social constructIONism.

Since CHAT's first home is developmental psychology, it is out of the work of Piaget and Papert that these terms are usually defined, and so closely that they are often conflated. While these theories acknowledge the social and perhaps cultural influences on learning and interpretation, they centre on a cognitivist, mental model view of knowledge. There is also the normative aspect of giving control to the learner to construct his or her individual world-view.

The other social constructIONism comes out of communications and sociology (e.g. Berger and Luckmann, The Social Construction of Reality, 1966), that challenges the inevitability of categorisations that are taken for granted in common discourse, and which form the bases for many institutions. This post-modern constructIONism generally places knowledge in discourse and interaction, but in more recent scholarship focuses on the cultural situation of the individual. This isn't a learning theory but rather a critical, meta-theoretical stance. To complicate matters, there are different strands with various accounts of what should be treated as real, true, essential, scientific, etc. and how communication should relate to action. It also challenges academic research standards with advocacy for interventionist approaches to practice. For an interdisciplinary expansion of CHAT, I think this constructIONism offers a rich field for comparison.

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Ron Lubensky
http://www.deliberations.com.au/
0411 412 626
Melbourne Australia

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*Andy Blunden*
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