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Hi, here is attached the Anton's pdf from Scribd:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/79482780/Yasnitsky-2011-Lev-Vygotsky-Philologist-and-Defectologist-Sociointellectual-Biography
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> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > *From:* mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com>
> > *To:* ablunden@mira.net; "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" 
> > <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> > *Sent:* Thursday, March 22, 2012 11:12:06 PM
> > *Subject:* Re: [xmca] Special issue on Vygotsky's legacy: 
> > groundbreaking discoveries in PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological Journal!
> >
> > How about sending around a manuscript of your article, Anton? So that the
> > ideas get wide dissemination and discussion.
> >
> > mike
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net 
> > <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>> wrote:
> >
> > > OK, so let me summarise, Anton.
> > > (1) You say that the central place of mediation by symbols and tools in
> > > the development of human consciousness is something introduced by some
> > > anonymous uncredited writer.
> > > (2) I am well aware of the notions of unit of analysis, situation and
> > > Gestalt used by the Gestaltists you mention and I find them quite 
> > inferior
> > > to the notions I have learnt from who I thought was Vygotsky, so I have
> > > another anonymous uncredited writer to thank for this.
> > > (3) If you are saying that Vygotsky did not read German philosophy till
> > > near the end of his life if at all, I am inclined to agree. Whoever 
> > it was
> > > that I have been reading seem to have brilliantly extracted these 
> > insights
> > > from reading Marx and discussions with 20th century writers.
> > >
> > > Andy
> > > Anton Yasnitsky wrote:
> > >
> > >> Let's put somewhat aside the question if anybody can actually 
> > *discover*
> > >> an *idea* or a *concept*: I tend to think that we rather 
> > *construct* and
> > >> *introduce* them, like any other neologisms. Anyway, this is just a 
> > remark
> > >> aside, let's get straight to the matter.
> > >>
> > >> I need to think if Vygotsky in fact ever said anything on "mediated
> > >> action" (if anybody is aware of specific locus in any Vygotsky's 
> > text where
> > >> he actually says "mediated action" I would greatly appreciate the 
> > reference
> > >> to the source).
> > >> As to the other two, I am inclined to look towards the Gestaltists,
> > >> primarily Kurt Koffka along with such peripheral participants and
> > >> fellow-tavellers of Gestaltpsychologie movement as Kurt Lewin and Kurt
> > >> Goldstein as the guys who approximately one hundred seventeen times 
> > better
> > >> and way earlier expressed pretty much the same ideas, but in slightly
> > >> different terms than Vygotsky vaguely did with his "unit of 
> > analysis" and
> > >> "social situation of development". I am not sure,  but I guess I 
> > briefly
> > >> suggested this here:
> > >>
> > >> Yasnitsky, A. (2011). Lev Vygotsky: Philologist and Defectologist, A
> > >> Socio-intellectual Biography. In Pickren, W., Dewsbury, D., & 
> > Wertheimer,
> > >> M. (Eds.). Portraits of Pioneers in Developmental Psychology, (Vol. 
> > 7, pp.
> > >> 109-134).
> > >>
> > >> Vygotsky, in turn, only started learning from the great Germans
> > >> (Americans, Jews, etc.) when he died.
> > >> Unfortunately, though, I am not so sure that these ideas have in fact
> > >> revolutionized psychology, at least so as long as mainstream (i.e.,
> > >> empirical, North American, ahistorical, non-cumulative, 
> > reductionist, etc.)
> > >> psychology is concerned.
> > >>
> > >> Anton
> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
> > >> ------------
> > >> *From:* Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net <mailto:ablunden@mira.net>>
> > >> *To:* Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com 
> > <mailto:the_yasya@yahoo.com>>; "eXtended Mind, Culture,
> > >> Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu <mailto:xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>>
> > >> *Sent:* Thursday, March 22, 2012 8:43:14 PM
> > >> *Subject:* Re: [xmca] Special issue on Vygotsky's legacy: groudbreaking
> > >> discoveries in PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological Journal!
> > >>
> > >> So Anton, to whom should we be attributing ideas like "unit of
> > >> analysis", "social situation of development", "mediated action" which
> > >> have revolutionised psychology, and we have been thinking were
> > >> discoveries of Vygotsky? Is there someone else who should be credited?
> > >>
> > >> Andy
> > >>
> > >> Anton Yasnitsky wrote:
> > >> > Indeed, thanks a lot to all those researchers, editors, translators,
> > >> and other volunteers and enthusiasts who made this -- and will make 
> > several
> > >> forthcoming  -- journal issues possible!!
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > As to Vygotsky's archives, well, it is a little bit different. For
> > >> instance, as one paper argues, on the contrary, archival materials 
> > of one
> > >> of arguably Vygotsky's works were NOT preserved, and the Russian 
> > text of
> > >> the work was blatantly retranslated (or just translated) into 
> > Russian from
> > >> English (this was a much later copy that actually WAS preserved, 
> > or, for
> > >> that matter, was NOT preserved either, but was "reconstructed" some 
> > time in
> > >> the 1950s or 1960s).
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Yet again, as we know, the manuscript of yet another work, commonly
> > >> believed to be a central work of Vygotsky, was NOT preserved 
> > either. The
> > >> same holds for yet another allegedly most important Vygotsky's book.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > So, in sum, I would not be that thankful to those who have been in
> > >> charge of keeping Vygotsky's archival stuff  alive and, for that 
> > matter,
> > >> accessible.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Anton
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > ______________________________**__
> > >> >  From: mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com <mailto:lchcmike@gmail.com> 
> > <mailto:lchcmike@gmail.com <mailto:lchcmike@gmail.com>>>
> > >> > To: Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com 
> > <mailto:the_yasya@yahoo.com> <mailto:the_yasya@yahoo.com 
> > <mailto:the_yasya@yahoo.com>>>;
> > >> "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu 
> > <mailto:xmca@weber.ucsd.edu> <mailto:
> > >> xmca@weber.ucsd.edu <mailto:xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>>>
> > >> > Cc: Alexey Kuznetsov <alexey.math@gmail.com 
> > <mailto:alexey.math@gmail.com> <mailto:
> > >> alexey.math@gmail.com <mailto:alexey.math@gmail.com>>**>; Ющенкова 
> > Дарья Викторовна <
> > >> dashulya-psy@mail.ru <mailto:dashulya-psy@mail.ru> 
> > <mailto:dashulya-psy@mail.ru <mailto:dashulya-psy@mail.ru>>>**; Anton 
> > Yasnitsky <
> > >> anton.yasnitsky@gmail.com <mailto:anton.yasnitsky@gmail.com> 
> > <mailto:anton.yasnitsky@gmail.**com<anton.yasnitsky@gmail.com 
> > <mailto:anton.yasnitsky@gmail.com>>>>;
> > >> Мещеряков Борис Гурьевич <borlogic@yahoo.com 
> > <mailto:borlogic@yahoo.com> <mailto:borlogic@yahoo.com 
> > <mailto:borlogic@yahoo.com>>>
> > >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:04:02 AM
> > >> > Subject: Re: [xmca] Special issue on Vygotsky's legacy: groudbreaking
> > >> discoveries in PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological Journal!
> > >> > >
> > >> > Thanks to all who carried out this work. Thanks also to those who 
> > kept
> > >> the archival materials alive.
> > >> > mike
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > 2012/3/21 Anton Yasnitsky <the_yasya@yahoo.com 
> > <mailto:the_yasya@yahoo.com> <mailto:
> > >> the_yasya@yahoo.com <mailto:the_yasya@yahoo.com>>>
> > >> >
> > >> > A special issue of PsyAnima, Dubna Psychological issue has been
> > >> released lately. This thematic multilingual issue combined a few 
> > studies on
> > >> textology, chronology and historical development of  Vygotsky's works.
> > >> Several highlights include:
> > >> > >> - first ever rigorous historical reconstruction of the list of
> > >> Vygotsky's major works and the chronology of their composition
> > >> >>
> > >> >> - the sensational finding: Vygotsky never wrote the "History of
> > >> development of higher mental (psychological) functions" and "Tool and
> > >> symbol (sign)" the way we know these texts in Russian now
> > >> >>
> > >> >> - a discussion of Vygotsky's " Tool and Sign" (alias "Tool and 
> > Sign"),
> > >> i.e. the first half of what we all know as "Mind and Society" (1978,
> > >> chapters 1-4): was Russian text translated from the English one, or the
> > >> English text translated from Russian one, or both?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> - numerous fakes and falsifications in Vygotsky's various published
> > >> works & the problem of reliability: is it the Vygotsky that we know or
> > >> rather -- the Vygotsky that we DO NOT know?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> - full list of editorial interventions in the three editions of
> > >> Vygotsky's "Thinking and speech" of 1934, 1956, & 1982
> > >> >>
> > >> >> - a historical, first ever republication of early Vygotsky's 
> > articles
> > >> on art, theatre and literature of 1922: the unknown Vygotsky of his 
> > Gomel'
> > >> period (1917-1924)
> > >> >>
> > >> >> All these and some other materials, in Russian, English, Portuguese,
> > >> and French are available FREE, 24/7 online @ http://www.psyanima.ru/**
> > >> 
> > journal/2011/4/index.php<http://www.psyanima.ru/journal/2011/4/index.php>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> The editorial team are presently considering publishing a follow-up
> > >> issue of the journal that would build on these studies, so any
> > >> >> queries, comments, suggestions, and even paper proposals (in 
> > virtually
> > >> any language and of virtually any length) will be greatly appreciated!
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