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Re: [xmca] Re: Engagement with Activity Theory.

On 27 December 2011 20:22, mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com> wrote:

> Christine --
> I have also been thinking about "appreciation." My musings led me to
> connect the idea of "I appreciate the effort you made" with the idea of
> appreciation in a phrase such as "The price of my house appreciated."

> In both cases, it appears that there is some sort of increase in "value."
> If someone else appreciates what I do, my "self" (lets make that my
> "dialogic self") increases by some measure of the greater valuing of me by
> the person doing the appreciating. Ditto if I appreciate what someone else
> does (such as writing a thought provoking note on xmca).
> Around the intervention methodology folks I hang out with, the idea of
> "reciprocal relations of exchange" which Olga Vasquez has favored gets a
> lot of, well, appreciation.
Always and over again the issue off what constitutes reciprocity is right
> in the middle of the enagement.

Its interesting too to consider the flux of polymorphic appreciations
(relations).  How, for example, it may be difficult to 'embed' a particular
appreciative insight/understanding within social norms, such as the
capacity for reflection in action.  Also interesting is the relation
between speaking (pointing) and appreciating.  In this regard the notion of
'introvert' (the psychological term, not shyness) can be partially thought
of as someone who habitually seeks to appreciate beyond what is
conventionally allowed for in their social circles.


> mike
> On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 10:28 PM, christine schweighart <
> schweighartgate@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >  Dear Mike,
> >
> > I read  your joint article in the special issue of T&P 2011 and
> > appreciated the notion of mutual appropriation - I was contrasting with,
> > and have not found myself able to 'project' into 'formative teaching
> > experment'  - though this would be another thread. Also in that issue
> Yryo
> > used a definition of 'intervention' from Gerald Midgley, who I am working
> > with now, his contribution has been to introduce a concept of 'boundary
> > critique' -influenced by Ullrich -into  'Critical Systems Thinking'.
> >
> > I became interested in 'activity theory' after responding to a call for
> > papers for ISCAR 2005 Seville - and you responded! Also in that
> conference
> > you gave a very moving talk WITH from and back to your audience - I
> enjoyed
> > that - but of course the 'content' has now gone in memory.  It was only
> > when Seth Chaiklin moved to the UK and 'rounded up'  stragglers that I
> > engaged 'theoretically', very slowly and with very different values about
> > research, but I got to the question I asked Andy, and still have -  in
> > there somewhere-my historical traces to understand my communions and
> > differences etc..  Going back into 'systems'  - with  the opacity of
> > 're-entry',  initial dialogues show appreciation ' we haven't got a
> theory
> > of activity' :).  Though their background has a stong history of
> community
> > developmental work, and environmental developmental intervention .
> >
> > In using this list serve, my email doesn't seem to 'reply' to messages in
> > the way others mange to- I don't get a smooth 'title' and copy message,
> so
> > I've not just quite got the hang of this. It meant that I couldn't direct
> > comments - so early on I 'lost' responding to David Kellog on the
> > discussion f the wine and bottles - and also on the talk of recognition.
> I
> > have attempted to present a distinction of subjectification and
> > 'appreciation' in recent talks - but this is 'unappreciated' with those
> > deeply immersed in the notion of subjectification --  So I read greg's
> > comments and will re-read the whole thread- it went very quickly!
> >
> > Also I can't get an 'automatic' email to open on Bruce's link ( same
> > problem with my hotmail set up) - so if there are any guidelines as to
> what
> > is acceptable in terms of links to other websites etc  please point me
> > there( and how to 'reply' in threads  with more focus/proximity). Live
> > links are stripped out , sometimes they are 'accidentally' cut and pasted
> > in haste, - but don't know the trouble this might provoke your server
> etc.
> >
> > Many thanks, Christine.
> >
> >
> >
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