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Re: [xmca] help on conscious awareness etc



Larry,
I am not at all sure that ability to lie is actually relevant to what I need, remembering one's own thoughts probably isn't either, but I want to know what was claimed in respect of Vygotsky's use of the concept of "conscious awareness" [/osoznanie/]. Vygotsky does not see /osoznanie /as something which one gains with respect to the entirety of consciousness all at once. It takes a lifetime to even get halfway there after all.

Andy

Larry Purss wrote:
Andy

I'm not sure if this is too far off your path, but V. Reddy in exploring the
"emergence of mind" in very young children wrote a chapter in her recent
book on the topic of lying while exploring [and critquing] "theory of
mind" in  either its "theory" or "simulation" framework. Children's emerging
ability to deliberately lie is a major focus of her EMPIRICAL studies.  She
certainly has a perspective on the emerging capacity of conscious
awareness.   Where are you going with this line of inquiry?

Larry
On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 4:14 AM, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns@gmail.com> wrote:

On 7 August 2011 09:00, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:

A few years ago we were discussing conscious awareness and people
reported
research on children remembering what they were thinking about an hour
ago,
and children's ability to deliberately lie, in this context, as ways of
looking into conscious awareness of psychological functions.

Can anyone either point me to the discussion, mentioned the name of the
authors of these papers? I can't find it! :(


Results for searching the archive for " lie " attached.   The prefix to
each
line is the suffix to the original archived mail url (so you can find it
with a browser).

Huw



Andy

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