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Re: [xmca] A real science of mind?

Yes, the neurobabble critique seems right on.

Interesting that he does not get us to the perplexities of the cultural
mediation of perception.


On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:

> The opening 3-point blast against neurobabble is wonderful to read. I agree
> with every word of it but it is very satisfying to see it in print. The
> remainder of the article is interesting too. Thanks for that Jorge. I am
> going to preserve that opening bit!
> Andy
> Jorge Fernando Larreamendy Joerns wrote:
>> An interesting article in the NYT. People feel and think, brains don't.
>> Jorge
>> DECEMBER 19, 2010, 5:18 PM
>> A Real Science of Mind
>> The Stone is a forum for contemporary philosophers on issues both timely
>> and timeless.
>> Tags:
>> Brain, Eyes and Eyesight, Neuroscience, Philosophy, Psychology and
>> Psychologists
>> In recent years popular science writing has bombarded us with titillating
>> reports of discoveries of the brain’s psychological prowess.  Such reports
>> invade even introductory patter in biology and psychology.  We are told that
>> the brain — or some area of it sees, decides, reasons, knows, emotes, is
>> altruistic/egotistical, or wants to make love.  For example, a recent
>> article reports a researcher’s “looking at love, quite literally, with the
>> aid of an MRI machine.”  One wonders whether lovemaking is to occur between
>> two brains, or between a brain and a human being.
>> There are three things wrong with this talk.
>> First, it provides little insight into psychological phenomena.  Often the
>> discoveries amount to finding stronger activation in some area of the brain
>> when a psychological phenomenon occurs.  As if it is news that the brain is
>> not dormant during psychological activity!  The reported neuroscience is
>> often descriptive rather than explanatory.  Experiments have shown that
>> neurobabble produces the illusion of understanding.  But little of it is
>> sufficiently detailed to aid, much less provide, psychological explanation.
>> The idea that the neural can replace the psychological is the same idea
>> that led to thinking that all psychological ills can be cured with drugs.
>> Second, brains-in-love talk conflates levels of explanation.  Neurobabble
>> piques interest in science, but obscures how science works.  Individuals
>> see, know, and want to make love.  Brains don’t.  Those things are
>> psychological — not, in any evident way, neural.  Brain activity is
>> necessary for psychological phenomena, but its relation to them is complex.
>> Imagine that reports of the mid-20th-century breakthroughs in biology had
>> focused entirely on quantum mechanical interactions among elementary
>> particles.  Imagine that the reports neglected to discuss the structure or
>> functions of DNA.  Inheritance would not have been understood.  The level of
>> explanation would have been wrong.  Quantum mechanics lacks a notion of
>> function, and its relation to biology is too complex to replace biological
>> understanding.  To understand biology, one must think in biological terms.
>> Discussing psychology in neural terms makes a similar mistake.
>>  Explanations of neural phenomena are not themselves explanations of
>> psychological phenomena.  Some expect the neural level to replace the
>> psychological level.  This expectation is as naive as expecting a single
>> cure for cancer.  Science is almost never so simple.  See John Cleese’s apt
>> spoof of such reductionism.
>> The third thing wrong with neurobabble is that it has pernicious feedback
>> effects on science itself.  Too much immature science has received massive
>> funding, on the assumption that it illuminates psychology.  The idea that
>> the neural can replace the psychological is the same idea that led to
>> thinking that all psychological ills can be cured with drugs.
>> Perceptual psychology, not neuroscience, should be grabbing headlines.
>> Correlations between localized neural activity and specific psychological
>> phenomena are important facts.  But they merely set the stage for
>> explanation.   Being purely descriptive, they explain nothing.  Some
>> correlations do aid psychological explanation.  For example, identifying
>> neural events underlying vision constrains explanations of timing in
>> psychological processes and has helped predict psychological effects.  We
>> will understand both the correlations and the psychology, however, only
>> through psychological explanation.
>> Scientific explanation is our best guide to understanding the world.  By
>> reflecting on it, we learn better what we understand about the world.
>> Neurobabble’s popularity stems partly from the view that psychology’s
>> explanations are immature compared to neuroscience.  Some psychology is
>> indeed still far from rigorous.  But neurobabble misses an important fact.
>> A powerful, distinctively psychological science matured over the last four
>> decades.  Perceptual psychology, pre-eminently vision science, should be
>> grabbing headlines.  This science is more advanced than many biological
>> sciences, including much neuroscience.  It is the first science to explain
>> psychological processes with mathematical rigor in distinctively
>> psychological terms.  (Generative linguistics — another relatively mature
>> psychological science — explains psychological structures better than
>> psychological processes.)
>> Erin Schell
>> What are distinctively psychological terms?  Psychology is distinctive in
>> being a science of representation.  The term “representation” has a generic
>> use and a more specific use that is distinctively psychological.  I start
>> with the generic use, and will return to the distinctively psychological
>> use.  States of an organism generically represent features of the
>> environment if they function to correlate with them.  A plant or bacterium
>> generically represents the direction of light.  States involved in growth or
>> movement functionally correlate with light’s direction.
>> Task-focused explanations in biology and psychology often use “represent”
>> generically, and proceed as follows.  They identify a natural task for an
>> organism.  They then measure environmental properties relevant to the task,
>> and constraints imposed by the organism’s bio-physical make-up.  Next, they
>> determine mathematically optimal performance of the task, given the
>> environmental properties and the organism’s constraints.  Finally, they
>> develop hypotheses and test the organism’s fulfillment of the task against
>> optimal performance.
>> This approach identifies systematic correlations between organisms’ states
>> and environmental properties.  Such correlations constitute generic
>> representation.  However, task-focused explanations that use
>> “representation” generically are not distinctively psychological.  For they
>> apply to states of plants, bacteria, and water pumps, as well as to
>> perception and thought.
>> Explanation in perceptual psychology is a sub-type of task-focused
>> explanation.  What makes it distinctively psychological is that it uses
>> notions like representational accuracy, a specific type of correlation.
>> The difference between functional correlation and representational
>> accuracy is signaled by the fact that scientific explanations of
>> light-sensitivity in plants or bacteria invoke functional correlation, but
>> not states capable of accuracy.  Talk of accuracy would be a rhetorical
>> afterthought.  States capable of accuracy are what vision science is
>> fundamentally about.
>> Science of mind is one of the most important intellectual developments in
>> the last half century. It should not be obscured by neurobabble.
>> Why are explanations in terms of representational accuracy needed?  They
>> explain perceptual constancies.  Perceptual constancies are capacities to
>> perceive a given environmental property under many types of stimulation.
>>  You and a bird can see a stone as the same size from 6 inches or 60 yards
>> away, even though the size of the stone’s effect on the retina differs.  You
>> and a bee can see a surface as yellow bathed in white or red light, even
>> though the distribution of wavelengths hitting the eye differ.
>> Plants and bacteria (and water-pumps) lack perceptual constancies.
>>  Responses to light by plants and bacteria are explained by reference to
>> states determined by properties of the light stimulus — frequency,
>> intensity, polarization — and by how and where light stimulates their
>> surfaces.
>> Visual perception is getting the environment right — seeing it,
>> representing it accurately.  Standard explanations of neural patterns cannot
>> explain vision because such explanations do not relate vision, or even
>> neural patterns, to the environment.  Task-focused explanations in terms of
>> functional correlation do relate organisms’ states to the environment.  But
>> they remain too generic to explain visual perception.
>> Perceptual psychology explains how perceptual states that represent
>> environmental properties are formed.  It identifies psychological patterns
>> that are learned, or coded into the perceptual system through eons of
>> interaction with the environment.  And it explains how stimulations cause
>> individuals’ perceptual states via those patterns.  Perceptions and
>> illusions of depth, movement, size, shape, color, sound localization, and so
>> on, are explained with mathematical rigor.
>> Perceptual psychology uses two powerful types of explanation — one,
>> geometrical and traditional; the other, statistical and cutting-edge.
>> Here is a geometrical explanation of distance perception.   Two angles and
>> the length of one side determine a triangle.  A point in the environment
>> forms a triangle with the two eyes.  The distance between the eyes in many
>> animals is constant.  Suppose that distance to be innately coded in the
>> visual system.  Suppose that the system has information about the angles at
>> which the two eyes are pointing, relative to the line between the eyes.
>>  Then the distance to the point in the environment is computable.  Descartes
>> postulated this explanation in 1637.  There is now rich empirical evidence
>> to indicate that this procedure, called “convergence,” figures in perception
>> of distance.  Convergence is one of over 15 ways human vision is known to
>> represent distance or depth.
>> Here is a statistical explanation of contour grouping.  Contour grouping
>> is representing  which contours (including boundary contours) “go together,”
>> for example, as belonging to the same object.  Contour grouping is a step
>> toward perception of object shape.  Grouping boundary contours that belong
>> to the same object is complicated by this fact:  Objects commonly occlude
>> other objects, obscuring boundary contours of partially occluded objects.
>>  Grouping boundaries on opposite sides of an occluder is a step towards
>> perceiving object shape.
>> To determine how boundary contours should ideally be grouped, numerous
>> digital photographs of natural scenes are collected.  Hundreds of thousands
>> of contours are extracted from the photographic images.  Each pair is
>> classified as to whether or not it corresponds to boundaries of the same
>> object.  The distances and relative orientations between paired
>> image-contours are recorded.  Given enough samples, the probability that two
>> photographic image-contours correspond to contours on the same object can be
>> calculated.  Probabilities vary depending on distance — and orientation
>> relations among the image-contours.  So whether two image-contours
>> correspond to boundaries of the same object depends statistically on
>> properties of image-contours.
>> Human visual systems are known to record contour information.  In
>> experiments, humans are shown only image-contours in photographs, not full
>> photographs.  Their performance in judging which contours belong to the same
>> object, given only the image-contours, closely matches the objective
>> probabilities established from the photographs.  Such tests support
>> hypotheses about how perceptions of object shape are formed from cues
>> regarding contour groupings.
>> Representation, in the specific sense, and consciousness are the two
>> primary properties that are distinctive of psychological phenomena.
>>  Consciousness is the what-it-is-like of experience.  Representation is the
>> being-about-something in perception and thought.   Consciousness is
>> introspectively more salient.  Representation is scientifically better
>> understood.
>> Where does mind begin?  One beginning is the emergence of representational
>> accuracy — in arthropods.  (We do not know where consciousness begins.)
>>  Rigorous science of mind begins with perception, the first distinctively
>> psychological representation.  Maturation of a science of mind is one of the
>> most important intellectual developments in the last half century.  Its
>> momentousness should not be obscured by neurobabble that baits with
>> psychology, but switches to brain science.  Brain and psychological sciences
>> are working toward one another.  Understanding their relation depends on
>> understanding psychology.  We have a rigorous perceptual psychology.  It may
>> provide a model for further psychological explanation that will do more than
>> display an MRI and say, “behold, love.”
>> Additional Reading:
>> Charless C. Fowlkes, David R. Martin, and Jitendra Malik, “Local
>> Figure-Ground Cues are Valid for Natural Images,” Journal of Vision 7
>> (2007), 1-9.
>> W.S. Geisler, “Visual Perception and the Statistical Properties of Natural
>> Scenes,” Annual Review of Psychology 59 (2008), 10.1-10.26.
>> David Knill, “Discriminating Planar Surface Slant from Texture: Human and
>> Ideal Observers Compared,” Vision Research, 38 (1998), 1683-1711.
>> Stephen E. Palmer, Vision Science: Photons to Phenomenology (Cambridge,
>> Mass.: MIT Press, 2002).
>> D. Vishwanath, A.R. Girshick, and M.S. Banks, “Why Pictures Look Right
>> When Viewed from the Wrong Place,” Nature Neuroscience (2005), 1401-1410.
>> D.S. Weisberg, F.C. Keil, J. Goodstein, E. Rawson, and J.R. Gray, “The
>> Seductive Allure of Neuroscience Explanations,” Journal of Cognitive
>> Neuroscience 20 (2008), 470-477.
>> Tyler Burge is Distinguished Professor of Philosophy at U.C.L.A. He is the
>> author of many papers on philosophy of mind and three books with Oxford
>> University Press: “Truth, Thought, Reason: Essays on Frege,” “Foundations of
>> Mind,” and most recently, “Origins of Objectivity, which discusses the
>> origins of mind in perception and the success of perceptual psychology as a
>> science.
>> Copyright 2010 The New York Times CompanyPrivacy PolicyNYTimes.com 620
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>> Jorge Larreamendy-Joerns, Ph.D.
>> Profesor Asociado y Director
>> Departamento de Psicología
>> Universidad de los Andes
>> On Dec 19, 2010, at 1:26 PM, Martin Packer wrote:
>>> Accountability:  attached is my attempt to make sense of this during
>>> fieldwork in the 1980s.
>>> Martin
>>> <Packer Changing Classes.pdf>
>>> On Dec 19, 2010, at 10:56 AM, Richard Beach wrote:
>>>> I put in "accountability" into the Google Books Ngram Viewer, and found
>>>> a
>>>> marked increase in use of that word from 1985 to 2005
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/267lfd7
>>>> As Richard Ohmann has noted, there was little use of "accountability"
>>>> applied to education prior to the 1980s.  Given the rise of a business
>>>> management discourse (Fairclough), it has now become a primary discourse
>>>> for
>>>> framing school policies.
>>>> All of this reflects the control of corporate America over the system
>>>> since
>>>> the 1980s.  As reported in today's New York Times, the Supreme Court
>>>> sided
>>>> with business interests 29% during the Warren court and 47% during the
>>>> Burger court (1969-1985), as contrasted with 61% of the time during the
>>>> Roberts court (2005-2009).
>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2010/12/19/us/politics/19roberts-graphicA
>>>> .
>>>> html?ref=us
>>>> In his column, Frank Rich summed it all up by quoting the new Chair of
>>>> the
>>>> House finance committee that's supposed to oversee the finance industry:
>>>> "As
>>>> Bachus’s instantly notorious pronouncement
>>>> http://blog.al.com/sweethome/2010/12/spencer_bachus_finally_gets_hi.html
>>>> had it, 'My view is that Washington and the regulators are there to
>>>> serve
>>>> the banks.'"  In truth, this congressman’s view has been the prevailing
>>>> view
>>>> in Washington under both parties since the Reagan administration.
>>>> On 12/18/10 12:49 PM, "ANTHONY M BARRA" <tub80742@temple.edu> wrote:
>>>>> Across the blogosphere, everyone's playing with Google's Books Ngram
>>>>> Viewer.
>>>>> This seems like a crowd who'd enjoy this tool.  But careful if you
>>>>> don't
>>>>> have some time to kill!
>>>>> http://bit.ly/dPNE04
>>>>> http://bit.ly/hdcxlN
>>>>> http://bit.ly/feXL47
>>>>> Overview of the program
>>>>> here<
>>>>> http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2010/12/the-decline-of-man-
>>>>> as-a-word/68167/>
>>>>> .
>>>>> - Anthony (cheers from Villas, USA)
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