Re: [xmca] Tom Toolery

[David Kellogg <vaughndogblack@yahoo.com>]

Nothing, Andy. That's why I want to oppose the ideal to the real, and not to the material.
                
             ARTEFACT: 
Tool-artefact       Utensil-artefact
(mass production)  (personal consumption)
 
                SIGN
Signal-sign         Symbol-sign
(thing-thing)        (meaning-meaning)]
 
        MATERIALITY
Reality               Ideality
(percepts)          (concepts)
 
David Kellogg
Seoul National University of Education
   
--- On Mon, 10/18/10, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:


From: Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net>
Subject: Re: [xmca] Tom Toolery
To: "eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
Date: Monday, October 18, 2010, 7:02 PM


What would be an example of something which is ideal but not also material, David?
andy
David Kellogg wrote: ...
> It seems to me that if we follow Steve and Ilyenkov, and we see problem after problem as a matter of establishing the interaction of "ideal" and "material", we will need some kind of super-category for the indivisible whole which both ideal and material make up. Otherwise we really do fall into the worst kind of Cartesian dualism. ...
>   


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