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Re: [xmca] Vygotsky vs. Bakhtin (or, The Interpersonal Is Not the Sociocultural Redux)



Hello Andy,

Authenticity to me- each ones truth.

hmm, Vygotskian context...if I were to think of "sense and meaning" perhaps?
If ones truth is in the midst of internalization, and there exists several
layers of truth depending on the social context of the moment, why can't
inner speech be dialogic? But Vygotsky has inner speech as monologic. Is it
possible that the relationships between subcultures within self be
considered the "others" , and if so, one's utterance will depend on its
relationship with the "other" and "others"? Would that be the hidden
dialogicity, mentioned by Bakhtin?

In the case of students/teachers/parents/community leaders in this
non-western culture, historically, and stlll in practice, believe that
asking questions is disrespectful to others (external). They will verbally
share what they assume the "other"(external) wants to hear. So, how does one
"listen" if dialogue with an external other may only "seem" truthful?

@Mike, Thanks for the links. I will use CHAT. However, my thoughts seem to
think of Bakhtin too. Yes, I am aware of the works of Kris, Yrgo, yours and
others. Barbara Rogoff's work with the indigenous people too. Actually, news
of Eugene and a design methodology is one that I will explore next...hmm, as
well as his thoughts on Bakhtin.    ~Ana BG



On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 3:44 AM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:

> What do you mean by "Authenticity", Ana? I don't ever recall this term
> arising in a Vygotkyan context. Mostly I would expect to see this come up in
> Existential and related currents of thought. What does it mean to you?
>
> Andy
>
>
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