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Re: [xmca] Re: Master's program based on CHAT



Hi Em
Well, things are moving ahead. A lot of people feel about as you do and have
their local settings scoped out so that what we offer is "free" with a gold
certificate of some sort at the end of it. And those who want to make it
part of a class where they teach (not everyone has such a place, or they
don't care) are free to do so.

Luisa and Steve are putting together a google group. Anyone interested
should contact them directly:
<stevegabosch@me.com>, "Luisa Aires" <laires11@gmail.com>,

Seems that a LOT of xmca-ers would be willing to give a lecture. As soon as
we have a roster of interested presenters, we can come up with a beginning
list. By that time, Steve and Luisa may have worked through
a storage/access plan. There are now a lot of cheap storage facilities
around that could be used.

But first, those interested should write to steve and luisa and join their
google group
mike
PS- Get your babblefish handy, the google group sign in instructions are in
Portueguese!

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Duvall, Emily <emily@uidaho.edu> wrote:

> My thinking is as follows:
> - I can contribute - no problem there.
> - I'm not fussy about who houses it.
> - Session numbers don't matter - we usually have to have a certain number
> of contact hours and I can make up the rest.
> - I'd like students to have the option of taking the course for graduate
> credit which means getting it on the books and charging for it.
> - Alternatively, if it could be run through the books of another university
> that wouldn't charge then they could take it there without cost other than
> transcripts.
> ~em
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On
> Behalf Of mike cole
> Sent: Monday, February 01, 2010 1:04 PM
> To: ablunden@mira.net; eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
> Cc: David Middleton; Annalisa Sannino; Anne Edwards; Harry Daniels
> Subject: Re: [xmca] Re: Master's program based on CHAT
>
> All-- What is the status of the Theory and Psychology issue?
> mike
>
> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:27 PM, mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > A major stumbling bloc)k, I believe, Andy, is that various people want to
> > do this as THEIR thing (THEY being located some PLACE (Moscow, Helsinki,
> > etc.). I have
> > NO interest in such an undertaking. My idea is that each PLACE would give
> > credit according to their internal rules/affordances such that students
> got
> > credit-- I have no hope of getting credit to the profs contributing,
> which
> > i suspect others DO have). Then, if we had some minimum number of
> sessions
> > (10 is my local number, for others it can be 18 or more) in common and we
> > organized an equal, or more or less equal number of "speakers" whose
> > "speaking" was recorded and archived and a list-serve or a google wave or
> a
> > blog or........ local people could grade/credit their own. Cost is
> minimal
> > (UCSD in cooperation with a few other places could "host" and store the
> blah
> > blah blah and common texts for no charge).
> >
> > Seems like is "could" work. But I sense reluctance to be so
> > non-enterprising with no special credit going to any one entrepreneur. I
> > might be wrong. All I know is that I can repeat these ideas in as many
> fora
> > as I like and the answer....... well, there is no answer.
> > You know how it goes: No mind? Never mind.
> > :-))
> > mike
> > PS-- Annalise-- Would you pass this along to the group to whom you
> > announced the Helsinki class?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net> wrote:
> >
> >> With time on my hands I certainly could contribute, but we really need
> >> someone with an academic position and experience to set up the rules and
> >> recruit other academics. But I could assist for sure. I cocordinate
> within a
> >> given group of participants. I could also talk within my narrow area of
> >> expertise.
> >>
> >> Andy
> >>
> >> mike cole wrote:
> >>
> >>> Sure. And since you are retired with lots of spare time on your hands,
> >>> you could be the master coordinator, right Andy? (Speaking of which,
> has
> >>> anyone heard from Anna recently?)
> >>>
> >>> To those who ask shall be given.
> >>> mike
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Andy Blunden <ablunden@mira.net
> <mailto:
> >>> ablunden@mira.net>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>    Much as I always like to make myself useful there is nothing I can
> >>>    do as an unqualified retiree ... but it seems to me that this
> >>>    wonderful collaborative idea needs to *seeded*. COuldn't LCHC and
> >>>    Peter Sawchuk's department and maybe Anna Stetsenko's department, or
> >>>    any group of say three North American Departments launch something?
> >>>    And once it's on the road, invite others to join?
> >>>
> >>>    Andy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>    mike cole wrote:
> >>>
> >>>        Yep. Any collective will out there to make this happen? I can't
> >>>        see it,
> >>>        maybe because of the blinding rain around here.
> >>>        mike
> >>>
> >>>        On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Larry Purss <lpurss@shaw.ca
> >>>        <mailto:lpurss@shaw.ca>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>            Mike
> >>>            If such a course did exist then cohorts of teachers or
> >>>            others in a shared
> >>>            work environment could take the course together as a shared
> >>>            project :-)
> >>>            Larry
> >>>
> >>>            ----- Original Message -----
> >>>            From: mike cole <lchcmike@gmail.com <mailto:
> >>> lchcmike@gmail.com>>
> >>>            Date: Thursday, January 21, 2010 6:18 am
> >>>            Subject: [xmca] Re: Master's program based on CHAT
> >>>            To: asannino@mappi.helsinki.fi
> >>>            <mailto:asannino@mappi.helsinki.fi>
> >>>            Cc: J.Derry@ioe.ac.uk <mailto:J.Derry@ioe.ac.uk>,
> >>>            clot@cnam.fr <mailto:clot@cnam.fr>, bodker@daimi.au.dk
> >>>            <mailto:bodker@daimi.au.dk>,
> >>>            berthel.sutter@bth.se <mailto:berthel.sutter@bth.se>,
> >>>            gutierrez@gseis.ucla.edu <mailto:gutierrez@gseis.ucla.edu>,
> >>>            cgoodwin@humnet.ucla.edu <mailto:cgoodwin@humnet.ucla.edu>,
> >>>            saija.volmari@helsinki.fi
> >>>            <mailto:saija.volmari@helsinki.fi>, Roger.Saljo@ped.gu.se
> >>>            <mailto:Roger.Saljo@ped.gu.se>, lorino@essec.fr
> >>>            <mailto:lorino@essec.fr>,
> >>>
> >>>            f.blackler@lancaster.ac.uk
> >>>            <mailto:f.blackler@lancaster.ac.uk>,
> >>>            natalia.gajdamaschko@gmail.com
> >>>            <mailto:natalia.gajdamaschko@gmail.com>,
> >>>
> >>>            t.o.digernes@intermedia.uio.no
> >>>            <mailto:t.o.digernes@intermedia.uio.no>,
> pprior@illinois.edu
> >>>            <mailto:pprior@illinois.edu>,
> >>>            reijo.miettinen@helsinki.fi
> >>>            <mailto:reijo.miettinen@helsinki.fi>, dholland@unc.edu
> >>>            <mailto:dholland@unc.edu>, mcole@weber.ucsd.edu
> >>>            <mailto:mcole@weber.ucsd.edu>,
> >>>
> >>>            sten.ludvigsen@intermedia.uio.no
> >>>            <mailto:sten.ludvigsen@intermedia.uio.no>,
> >>>            gerhard@colorado.edu <mailto:gerhard@colorado.edu>,
> >>>
> >>>            ymoro@human.tsukuba.ac.jp
> >>>            <mailto:ymoro@human.tsukuba.ac.jp>, cerf@inapg.inra.fr
> >>>            <mailto:cerf@inapg.inra.fr>, amargolis@mail.ru
> >>>            <mailto:amargolis@mail.ru>,
> >>>
> >>>            anne.edwards@education.ox.ac.uk
> >>>            <mailto:anne.edwards@education.ox.ac.uk>,
> >>>
> >>>            falk.seeger@uni-bielefeld.de
> >>>            <mailto:falk.seeger@uni-bielefeld.de>,
> >>>            asa.makitalo@ped.gu.se <mailto:asa.makitalo@ped.gu.se>,
> >>>            Ference.Marton@ped.gu.se <mailto:Ference.Marton@ped.gu.se>,
> >>>            annshvedovskaya@gmail.com
> >>>            <mailto:annshvedovskaya@gmail.com>, lektorski@ultranet.ru
> >>>            <mailto:lektorski@ultranet.ru>, elkjaer@dpu.dk
> >>>            <mailto:elkjaer@dpu.dk>,
> >>>            georg.rueckriem@gmx.net <mailto:georg.rueckriem@gmx.net>,
> >>>            H.R.J.Daniels@bath.ac.uk <mailto:H.R.J.Daniels@bath.ac.uk>,
> >>>
> >>>            skagawa@human.tsukuba.ac.jp
> >>>            <mailto:skagawa@human.tsukuba.ac.jp>,
> >>>            psawchuk@oise.utoronto.ca <mailto:psawchuk@oise.utoronto.ca
> >,
> >>>            xmca@weber.ucsd.edu <mailto:xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>,
> >>>
> >>>            Marilyn.Fleer@education.monash.edu.au
> >>>            <mailto:Marilyn.Fleer@education.monash.edu.au>,
> >>>            jr.taylor@umontreal.ca <mailto:jr.taylor@umontreal.ca>,
> >>>            drrussel@iastate.edu <mailto:drrussel@iastate.edu>,
> >>>            terttu.grohn@helsinki.fi <mailto:terttu.grohn@helsinki.fi>,
> >>>
> >>>            hildenil@zedat.fu-berlin.de
> >>>            <mailto:hildenil@zedat.fu-berlin.de>, padler@usc.edu
> >>>            <mailto:padler@usc.edu>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>                I guess my question is this:
> >>>
> >>>                Why are we not, collectively, offering such a course,
> >>>                where each
> >>>                member of
> >>>                the collective you are trying to form gives a
> >>>                lecture/discussion via
> >>>                internet DL? Credit could be given locally, or they
> >>>                could all
> >>>                pay Helsinki a
> >>>                fee. Or whatever.
> >>>
> >>>                Wouldn't that help build collaboration or is it not
> >>>                meaningful?
> >>>                mike
> >>>
> >>>                On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:17 PM,
> >>>                <asannino@mappi.helsinki.fi
> >>>                <mailto:asannino@mappi.helsinki.fi>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>                    Dear Mike,
> >>>
> >>>                    We feel that it is beneficial to inform colleagues
> >>>                    about this,
> >>>
> >>>                even if they
> >>>
> >>>                    live far away.
> >>>
> >>>                    With kind regards,
> >>>                    Annalisa
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>                    Quoting "mike cole" <lchcmike@gmail.com
> >>>                    <mailto:lchcmike@gmail.com>>:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>                     Well, too bad and good luck to those who have the
> >>> time
> >>>
> >>>                and money to come
> >>>
> >>>                        to
> >>>                        Helsinki.
> >>>
> >>>                        Might there be a better way to proceed?
> >>>                        mike
> >>>
> >>>                        On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:42 AM,
> >>>
> >>>                <asannino@mappi.helsinki.fi
> >>>                <mailto:asannino@mappi.helsinki.fi>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>                         Hello Mike!
> >>>
> >>>                            This is not a dl class. Sorry for not being
> >>>                            explicit about
> >>>
> >>>                this already
> >>>
> >>>                            in
> >>>                            the message.
> >>>
> >>>                            With kind regards,
> >>>                            Annalisa
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>                            Quoting "mike cole" <lchcmike@gmail.com
> >>>                            <mailto:lchcmike@gmail.com>>:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>                             Do students have to be physically present,
> >>>                            or is this
> >>>
> >>>                a dl class?
> >>>
> >>>                                mike
> >>>
> >>>                                On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 2:33 AM,
> >>>
> >>>                <asannino@mappi.helsinki.fi
> >>>                <mailto:asannino@mappi.helsinki.fi>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>                                 Dear Colleagues,
> >>>
> >>>                                    At University of Helsinki, we are
> >>>                                    running a Master's
> >>>
> >>>                program (in
> >>>
> >>>                                    English)
> >>>                                    in Adult Education and Developmental
> >>>                                    Work Research. This
> >>>
> >>>                program is
> >>>
> >>>                                    based
> >>>                                    on
> >>>                                    cultural-historical activity theory
> >>>                                    and aimed at training
> >>>
> >>>                competent>>>>> developers and interventionists in
> >>>                workplaces and
> >>>                other organizations.
> >>>
> >>>                                     Please find below a link to a the
> >>>                                    call for applications:
> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.helsinki.fi/atmo/index.htm
> >>>
> >>>                                    The deadline is the 1st of February
> >>>                                    for applicants who
> >>>
> >>>                have gained
> >>>
> >>>                                    their
> >>>                                    degrees outside Nordic countries.
> >>>                                    For those with degrees
> >>>
> >>>                from Nordic
> >>>
> >>>                                    countries, the deadline is the 26th
> >>>                                    of February.
> >>>
> >>>                                    With kind regards,
> >>>
> >>>                                    Yrjö Engeström      Reijo
> >>>
> >>>                Miettinen     Annalisa
> >>>                Sannino     Saija
> >>>
> >>>                                    Volmari
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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