Dear Mike and colleagues,
I am sure that people working within CHAT here in Helsinki would be
very
pleased to see the ideas discussed in XMCA materialized in some
form. It
seems to me that such a global collaboration is very challenging in
terms of
reaching coherence. So many different angles, interests and
theoretical
streams are involved.
What we are doing in Helsinki is quite different. We have conducted a
doctoral program on activity theory and developmental work research
since
1995 (http://vanha.edu.utu.fi/kasva/ ). So far, 25 doctoral
dissertations
have come out of this program. We just started a new doctoral class
(2010),
with 18 doctoral students. The doctoral program is conducted
entirely in
English, and we have some students from abroad. But not very many
have
applied (even though the program, as all university education in
Finland, is
free of charge: there are no tuitions), probably because Finland is
indeed
small and quite remote from the big metropolitan centers.
In any case, in 2006 we started a Master's program on Developmental
work
research and adult education ( www.helsinki.fi/*atmo*/ ). It is
based on a
similar CHAT framework as our doctoral program and in this year's new
doctoral class we have four graduates from the Master's program.
Starting in
the fall of 2010, the next Master's program class will be taught
entirely in
English. We take in 12 new students every second year. This
program, too, is
free of charge. The students are involved in research projects and
research
groups of our center, the CRADLE ( www.*helsinki*.*fi*/*cradle*/
info.htm
).
It needs to be pointed out that we in the CRADLE and in our
educational
programs focus on transformations in collective activity systems,
particularly work, and on formative interventions. In other words,
the
contents and objects of our research and teaching do not
necessarily cover
all aspects of CHAT and sociocultural approaches. We have a fairly
coherent
tradition of research and theorizing and we build on that. Inherent
in this
tradition is close, longitudinal collaboration with a number of
workplaces
and organizations.
Our programs do not try to monopolize anything. In fact, it would
be great
to find in other countries programs which have somewhat similar
theoretical
foundations and/or practical objects, so that we could engage in
exchange
and collaboration. If an international educational program, as
discussed in
the XMCA, will evolve, we are happy to try and contribute to and
interact
with it. We could make available for global use a good number if
not all of
the courses we teach in the Master's program and in the doctoral
program.
However, we have our hands full running and developing these
programs and,
most of all, supervising their students' theses. We do not have
the labor
power to lead the construction of a global program.
Best regards,
Yrjö Engeström
mike cole kirjoit23.1.2010 kello 20.08:
Yes, all good questions, Emily.
Set 1: technical issues. I would leave this to Luisa and others to
agree
upon. Broad access and ease of use should be the goals.
Set 2: Audience. I have no local master's program. This would be a
class in
the Comm/Psych/Cog Sci department here at UCSD but I would
contribute to
general effort with a lecture or two and as one of discussants.
Set 3. (Depending on audience, i guess). Content.
Set 4. Temporal coordination.
Note:your message did not include the many ISCAR and Helsinki folks
that
evoked this discussion. I will cc a few of them in hopes we can
hear from
them about their interest, lack thereof, ideas, etc.
EITHER its of broad use or not worth it.
mike
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Duvall, Emily <emily@uidaho.edu>
wrote:
Yes, I'm definitely interested.
Right now I work in Blackboard, have worked in Angel, and use
Elluminate
for meetings. I'm interested in ning, which would be free for
people.
Listserves,blogs, etc not a problem, but I do feel I'm a bit limited
vis-à-vis mediums but that's simply a matter of experience. I have
resources, faculty and students, that are well versed in various
distance
bridging approaches to collaborative work so I feel confident re
having
support.
Course wise - it's going to depend on the audience. Are we are
looking to
build on what people already know, those who are already
interested in CHAT,
SCT, etc, or are we looking to introduce and gather more into the
fold?
Certainly a combination is possible. In addition, if materials are
in
different languages, will there be translations available for all
of them?
Would postings (or however we communicate) be in English or multiple
languages? Will we need translators? Quite a number of logistics
issues, but
I think they can be easily resolved.
Tuition?
~em
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To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
Subject: Re: [xmca] Re: Master's program based on CHAT
Hi Luisa-
The experience of a team of implementers would be necessary, I am
pretty
sure. We would need to host archived lectures, discussions around
them. We
have to pick the medium of discussion (list serve, blog, moodle
that would
be most widely accessible). We would have to decide if this was
just a
total
free for all, or whether, for example, we would have a sequence
that got
repeated yearly, which could of course grow to be a sequence of
sequences.
We would have to select texts, ideally in more than just English,
where
possible. And of course, the theme of the first course: Maybe
something
inclusive like "One Open Source Introduction to Socio-cultural-
historical
approaches to human nature: Basic texts and concepts" (But maybe
others
will
have better idea). And more.
So, lets figure you would be part of an organizing group because
of your
background in DL and interest in the topic. Andy says he is
willing to
help,
I think i recall a note from Emily in the affirmative, Anna
Stetsenko was
suggested but not sure about her interest, Simon Fraser is
considering the
idea. And a few others. But many are simply silent, either because
they
(mistakenly!) think they have nothing to offer, or because,
perhaps, they
have other projects in mind to which they are devoting their
attention.
We'll see emerges.
mike
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Luisa Aires <laires11@gmail.com>
wrote:
What a wonderful idea, Mike!
If you think that my experience might be helpfull, it would be a
pleasure
for me to participate.
Luísa A.
2010/1/21 Duvall, Emily <emily@uidaho.edu>
That would be excellent!
~em
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Subject: [xmca] Re: Master's program based on CHAT
I guess my question is this:
Why are we not, collectively, offering such a course, where each
member
of
the collective you are trying to form gives a lecture/discussion
via
internet DL? Credit could be given locally, or they could all pay
Helsinki
a
fee. Or whatever.
Wouldn't that help build collaboration or is it not meaningful?
mike
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:17 PM, <asannino@mappi.helsinki.fi>
wrote:
Dear Mike,
We feel that it is beneficial to inform colleagues about this,
even
if
they
live far away.
With kind regards,
Annalisa
Quoting "mike cole" <lchcmike@gmail.com>:
Well, too bad and good luck to those who have the time and
money to
come
to
Helsinki.
Might there be a better way to proceed?
mike
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:42 AM, <asannino@mappi.helsinki.fi>
wrote:
Hello Mike!
This is not a dl class. Sorry for not being explicit about this
already
in
the message.
With kind regards,
Annalisa
Quoting "mike cole" <lchcmike@gmail.com>:
Do students have to be physically present, or is this a dl
class?
mike
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 2:33 AM, <asannino@mappi.helsinki.fi>
wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
At University of Helsinki, we are running a Master's
program (in
English)
in Adult Education and Developmental Work Research. This
program
is
based
on
cultural-historical activity theory and aimed at training
competent
developers and interventionists in workplaces and other
organizations.
Please find below a link to a the call for applications:
http://www.helsinki.fi/atmo/index.htm
The deadline is the 1st of February for applicants who have
gained
their
degrees outside Nordic countries. For those with degrees from
Nordic
countries, the deadline is the 26th of February.
With kind regards,
Yrjö Engeström Reijo Miettinen Annalisa Sannino
Saija
Volmari
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