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Re: [Fwd: RE: [xmca] Makarenko?]

Anton, Elina, Natalia, and other Russian participants in MCA.

I have not read Makrenko in 30 years and remember little of what I read.
What is his standing
today when the idea of a Djerzhinski commune might not seem all that
attractive, but there are
apparent links to Blonskii, Lunacharsky, & Krupskaya?

I know that Luria worked with such children early in his career, but never
heard him discuss either this
early work or Makrenko.
mike

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:01 PM, Achilles Delari Junior <
achilles_delari@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> I understand, Andy,
>
> Makarenko help me as father more than as socialist militant, because
> his discussion about "parents authority", among others. Did you already
> see this paper?
>
> G.N. Filonov. ANTON MAKARENKO(1888-1939) (Paris, UNESCO: International
> Bureau of Education), vol. XXIV, no. 1/2, 1994, p. 77-91.
>
> I will attach the pdf file here...
> Lets wait more experiment people than me say something more.
>
> Best wishes...
> Achilles.
>
>
> > Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 10:23:08 +1000
> > From: ablunden@mira.net
> > To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> > Subject: Re: [Fwd: RE: [xmca] Makarenko?]
> >
> > My friend Mike Bessler who is the guy who is distributing
> > the "Classics of Activity Theory" for me, has never read any
> > one from the Vygotsky School, but he loves Makarenko. He is
> > not an educator, just a devoted parent. I told him I didn't
> > like Makarenko much and he would enjoy Meshcheryakov more
> > ... but I can't actually justify my low opinion of
> > Makarenko, I was just based on a skim read, ... so I thought
> > I'd find someone who had an informed opinion.
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > Achilles Delari Junior wrote:
> > > Why do you ask, Andy?
> > >
> > >> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 15:48:36 +1000
> > >> From: ablunden@mira.net
> > >> To: achilles_delari@hotmail.com
> > >> Subject: [Fwd: RE: [xmca] Makarenko?]
> > >>
> > >> fyi
> > >>
> > >> -------- Original Message --------
> > >> Subject: RE: [xmca] Makarenko?
> > >> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 04:19:37 +0000
> > >> From: Achilles Delari Junior <achilles_delari@hotmail.com>
> > >> Reply-To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> I like Makarenko almost so much as I like Paulo Freire.
> > >> His practical contributions, despite in a popular
> > >> literary genre, are not vulgar nor reductionist.
> > >> It's interesting that he works at Poltova where Lidia
> > >> Bozhovitch works too, in certain period, but I don't
> > >> have any notice about any conversation between
> > >> them. His "Pedagogy of samples" is used by popular
> > >> marxist social movements here is Brazil, as well
> > >> in Children Education as in Political Collective Actions,
> > >> and activists aptitudes... But I don't have any deep
> > >> contribution about his whole theoretical framework.
> > >> He have interesting texts about: discipline, familiar
> > >> education, sexual education, parents authority, and
> > >> other themes, based on socialist values of that time.
> > >>
> > >> Best wishes.
> > >> Achilles from Brazil.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 13:19:36 +1000
> > >>> From: ablunden@mira.net
> > >>> To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu; mike@erythrospress.com
> > >>> CC:
> > >>> Subject: [xmca] Makarenko?
> > >>>
> > >>> Can anyone tell me what they think of Makarenko's work?
> > >>> Andy
> > >>>
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