Re: [xmca] Publish and/or Perish

Hi David,
Thanks for your help.
Best wishes,
Cathrene

 The ISI list is an open list and is available here:
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> http://scientific.thomson.com/mjl/
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> The social science list includes 2239 journals.
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> dp
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> On Jul 5, 2008, at 9:28 AM, Peter Smagorinsky wrote:
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>> I really can't explain or defend the charts and how they're
>> compiled; I
>> simply provide one that I use when evaluating tenure/promotion cases.
>> Sorry,Peter
>>
>> Peter Smagorinsky
>> The University of Georgia
>> 125 Aderhold Hall
>> Athens, GA 30602
>> smago@uga.edu/phone:706-542-4507
>> http://www.coe.uga.edu/lle/faculty/smagorinsky/index.html
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-
>> bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On
>> Behalf Of David H Kirshner
>> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 9:08 AM
>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> Subject: RE: [xmca] Publish and/or Perish
>>
>> Peter,
>>
>> Can you clarify a few points about the list:
>>
>> Why are some central journals, like Educational Researcher, not
>> included and
>> others, like Review of Research in Education, not listed with complete
>> entries?
>>
>> I'm assuming from the low score for Harvard Ed Review that impact is
>> calculated by frequency of citation, which means that another key
>> measure of
>> journal quality--acceptance rate--is ignored. Is that correct?
>>
>> Thanks.
>> David
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-
>> bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On
>> Behalf Of Peter Smagorinsky
>> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 4:56 AM
>> To: 'eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity'
>> Subject: RE: [xmca] Publish and/or Perish
>>
>> Attached is one "impact factor" list I found for journals in
>> education. p
>>
>> Peter Smagorinsky
>> The University of Georgia
>> 125 Aderhold Hall
>> Athens, GA 30602
>> smago@uga.edu/phone:706-542-4507
>> http://www.coe.uga.edu/lle/faculty/smagorinsky/index.html
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-
>> bounces@weber.ucsd.edu] On
>> Behalf Of Cathrene Connery
>> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 7:38 PM
>> To: mcole@weber.ucsd.edu; eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> Cc: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> Subject: Re: [xmca] Publish and/or Perish
>>
>> So, who has a list of the ISI journals? Anyone willing to share?
>> Cathrene
>>
>>
>>
>> The BIG down side is total assimilation to the existing mainstream,
>> David.
>>>
>>> I personally suggest a multi-valenced approach that includes ISI
>>> highly rated journals and deviant ones, like MCA.
>>>
>>> Michael left out part of the GOOD news. MCA has a rating that should
>>> win it ISI inclusion by year's end.
>>>
>>> I assume the PLAY article for discussion made it to everyone. People
>>> reading this weekend?
>>> mike
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 1:50 PM, David Preiss <davidpreiss@uc.cl>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> As a young scholar, I totally ENDORSE this petition, Michael.
>>>> Indeed,
>>>> I have always thought that MCA`s influence and intellectual
>>>> appeal is
>>>> not commensurate to its lack of inclusion in ISI. Alas, ISI! No
>>>> chance but to play according to its rules, I guess.
>>>> david
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 4, 2008, at 4:39 PM, Wolff-Michael Roth wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> Mike and I have had a conversation off line. He suggested I should
>>>>> write to the list. It concerns the increasing pressure on all of us
>>>>> to publish in "good" journals, and universities increasingly use as
>>>>> a measure the presence and impact factor ranking in ISI Web of
>>>>> Science as a measure. This is especially true for Asian countries
>>>>> and other countries. With my graduate students, we always make
>>>>> selections based on this criterion, because I want them to be
>>>>> successful in their home countries and careers.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the sciences, this has long been common practice; now the social
>>>>> sciences are swept up by the same trend. I have recently been
>>>>> bombarded by publishers whose journals have increased in their
>>>>> impact factor.
>>>>> Furthermore, there are a number of companies that make the rankings
>>>>> of their journal a key bit of information on the website.
>>>>>
>>>>> (Some of) You may be asking what this has to do with you. Well,
>>>>> since I have been editing journals (besides MCA, I also do CULTURAL
>>>>> STUDIES OF SCIENCE EDUCATION and FQS: FORUM QUALITATIVE SOCIAL
>>>>> RESEARCH), I have been asked by new faculty members about rejection
>>>>> rates, rankings, etc. And I have been asked by department heads and
>>>>> deans as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some may decide to opt out, which would come with dire consequences
>>>>> for many, who might find themselves in the position of not being
>>>>> tenured or promoted.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately, we (MCA) currently are not in ISI Web of Science,
>>>>> which places those of you who publish in the journal in an
>>>>> unfortunate situation.
>>>>>
>>>>> One of the ways in which you, the community as a whole can be
>>>>> proactive producing the conditions that would convince ISI to make
>>>>> MCA one of the listed and ranked journals is to make it a habit to
>>>>> cite RECENT articles you have been reading in MCA. Here is why:
>>>>>
>>>>> The impact factor for 2007 (which is what was made available just a
>>>>> few days ago), for example, is calculated using the following
>>>>> formula:
>>>>>
>>>>> Number of citations in 2007 referencing
>>>>> articles published in 2005 and 2006 impact factor =
>>>>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ------
>> ---------------
>>>>> Number of citable articles
>>>>> published in 2005 and 2006
>>>>>
>>>>> (They may not take into account self-citation, but I am not sure)
>>>>>
>>>>> So the impact factor is 1 when a journal had 60 references from the
>>>>> outside while having published 60 articles (over 2005 and 2006).
>>>>>
>>>>> You see, as a community, you can help yourself by citing MCA
>>>>> work in
>>>>> other journals. With high rankings, MCA will be included in ISI and
>>>>> then you and your peers will be rated higher at your institution
>>>>> because it is part of ISI.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have a nice weekend all of you,
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> Michael
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Wolff-Michael Roth, Editor-in-Chief
>>>>> MIND, CULTURE, AND ACTIVITY
>>>>> Email: mroth@uvic.ca
>>>>> Journal: http://www.tandf.co.uk/journals/1074-9039
>>>>> Submissions: http://mc.manuscriptcentral.com/mca
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> David Preiss, Ph.D.
>>>> Subdirector de Extensión y Comunicaciones Escuela de Psicología
>>>> Pontificia Universidad Catolica de Chile Av Vicuña Mackenna - 4860
>>>> 7820436 Macul
>>>> Santiago, Chile
>>>>
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>>>> Fax: 3544844
>>>> e-mail: davidpreiss@uc.cl
>>>> web personal: http://web.mac.com/ddpreiss/ web institucional:
>>>> http://www.epuc.cl/profesores/dpreiss
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> David Preiss, Ph.D.
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> Escuela de Psicología
> Pontificia Universidad Catolica de Chile
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