Re: [xmca] Don C about the "epic" googlization film - a bit of mca history

From: Wolff-Michael Roth <mroth who-is-at>
Date: Thu Jun 28 2007 - 06:19:57 PDT

Hi Mike,
perhaps we have to rethink the "more knowledgeable partner" and think
zpd as Yrjö suggested as a change in the activity system that leads
to expansive learning, and this may happen also in the case were
equally knowledgeable partners get together, or if a new tool is
introduced, different forms of division of labor are evolved, etc.


On 27-Jun-07, at 7:41 PM, Mike Cole wrote:

No one picked up on this and I should probably just drop it but the

continued discussion on ZOPED prompts me to ask, could a computer

algorithm be a "more knowledgeable" partner? Adaptive testing is another

example of an artificial intelligence that tries to move people into a

zone of maximum response. If the vision in EPIC 2015 were actualized,

might not the algorithm be a sensei, showing us the way forward? I

understand that the notion of _forward_ is problematic, but is that not

also true of a human sensei......or any teacher? And why should the goal

in a zoped be the ability to act independently? Most of the things in my

life that have expanded my capabilities are things I have come to rely

on and are now a part of me. I can't imagine how I ever wrote anything

of value when I wrote in long hand, had a poor (now nearly blind thanks

to me) secretary type it up, correct, edit, repeat, and so forth. Here I

link with Donna's contribution where she mentions natural born cyborgs.

Can anyone doubt that within my lifetime (and I'm OLD) that things like

MP3's and cell phones will be available as surgical implants?

Mind you, this all scares the beejeezes out of me..........djc
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