Yes, its a dilemma.... keep adding modifiers or keep it crisp and neat.
I guess I am sensitive to uses of the term, social, because in so many
discourses
I participate in it is taken as the antonym of biological.
mike
On 2/14/07, Jennifer Vadeboncoeur <vadebonc@interchange.ubc.ca> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Cathrene, thanks for your note. :)
>
> Mike's comment is a "wake up" call: what I assume and the way I use
> language to make sense of things is not necessarily the same as what
> others assume and the way they use language. I am reminded of
> discussions by Wertsch regarding the way that Vygotsky's ideas
> challenge our common terms for things, and the need to add qualifiers
> to signify a new or different meaning; situated cognition,
> distributed cognition, assisted performance, situated learning. I am
> constantly reminding my students, reminding myself as I do, that
> common terms like learning, development, cognition, emotion,
> knowledge, identity, are grounded in theoretical perspectives. So we
> end up saying, "This is what I mean by cognition, not that
> definition, this one." They get overwhelmed sometimes with the
> different ways of conceptualizing these terms, me too, but I love the
> idea that this "word play" is an avenue for thinking things
> differently. I hope this is "true."
>
> Best - jennifer
>
>
>
> >Hi Jennifer and colleagues,
> >Thanks for your eloquent definition of the term "social". I, too,
> >embrace the multidimensional concept as being constituent of social,
> >cultural, historical, mediated, semiotic, and embodied texts and
> >practices.
> >Cathrene
> >
> >M. Cathrene Connery, Ph.D.
> >Assistant Professor of Bilingual & TESL Education
> >Central Washington University
> >
> >>>> Jennifer Vadeboncoeur <vadebonc@interchange.ubc.ca> 2/13/2007 5:37
> >PM >>>
> >Mike!
> >
> >Yes, thanks for that query. In this piece we began with the physical
> >and were writing/thinking through what other forms of "space" might
> >look like. Space that is constituted by or produced in human
> >activity, social practices, and discursive practices, for example,
> >that would help us describe and explain our research.
> >
> >The concepts that are central to our work - social, cultural, and
> >historical - are in my mind, though I have taken up and used "social
> >practices" more than "cultural practices" or "historical practices,"
> >perhaps out of force of habit. I see this tendency in Harvey,
> >Lefebvre, and Soja's work - that is, to talk about the social moreso
> >than the cultural, though in saying that, I pause, because Harvey, in
> >particular, emphasizes the historical alongside the social production
> >of space.
> >
> >So, when I read the term "social," as in "social construction of
> >knowledge," I read it as a process that is at once social, cultural,
> >and historical. I read it as mediated, semiotic, embodied. I
> >appreciate your point; that others may not read it this way.
> >
> >Sociocultural, cultural historical, sociohistorical, cultural? How
> >are other folks managing this?
> >
> >Best - jennifer
> >
> >
> >>Hi Jennifer--
> >>
> >>For those who have not gotten the article, you can start at the
> >following
> >>url, then go to the journal and down on the right
> >>hand side you will see the last article in the series. That is the one
> >on
> >>spaces that Jennifer is referring to.
> >>http://lchc.ucsd.edu/MCA/index.html
> > >
> > >Good luck hunting and reading!!
> > >
> > >Jennifer-- How come the term, culture, does not figure in your brief
> > >summary?
> > >mike
> > >
> > >On 2/12/07, Jennifer Vadeboncoeur <vadebonc@interchange.ubc.ca>
> >wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 14:04:29 -0800
> >>>>To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> >>>>From: Jennifer Vadeboncoeur <vadebonc@interchange.ubc.ca>
> >>>>Subject: social spaces
> >>>>Cc:
> >>>>Bcc:
> >>>>X-Attachments:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Dear XMCA Folks,
> >>>>
> >>>>Hope this note finds you well!
> >>>>
> >>>>On Monday, Mike attached the piece entitled, Hirst, E. &
> >>>>Vadeboncoeur, J. A. (2006). Patrolling the borders of Otherness:
> >>>>Dis/placed identity positions for teachers and students in schooled
> >>>>spaces. Mind, Culture, and Activity: An International Journal,
> >>>>13(3), 203-225.
> >>>>
> >>>>I am mindful of busy schedules and not sure who may have gotten the
> >>>>chance to read it yet, but I thought I would throw out a a bit of a
> >>>>beginning piece and see if I can generate some discussion.
> >Elizabeth
> >>>>Hirst, at Griffith University in Brisbane, will contribute as she
> > >>>can around her traveling schedule.
> >>>>
> >>>>As I think about this piece, two interests of ours were: an
> >interest
> >>>>in understanding social space, as distinct from material or
> >physical
> >>>>space; and an interest in exploring the intersection between
> >>>>government - federal and state - policy and the lives of teachers
> >>>>and students. For example, if we attempt to work beyond the "space
> >>>>as container" metaphor, how do we describe, define, exemplify
> >social
> >>>>space? What constructs social space? How is it constituted? And
> >from
> >>>>a research perspective, what sorts of data would need to be
> >gathered
> >>>>to provide evidence of social space? Both theoretical and
> >>> >methodological issues surface here and for the second area of
> >>> >interest. In terms of links between policy and practice, how do
> >we
> >>> >map across policy initiatives and what occurs at the level of the
> >>>>school and/or the classroom? How do we link policy with the lives
> >of
> >>>>young people outside of schools?
> >>>>
> >>>>Just some thoughts here. As you think about this piece, what stands
> >>>>out for you?
> >>>>
> >>>>Best - jennifer
> >>>>
> >>>>[Eliz, please jump in when you can, and add to the above, vibes for
> >>> >safe travels!]
> >
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