Hi Volker,
The dialectic of individual and collective is the main topic of the book I
co-authored with Michael Roth and two members of UVic research group on
CHAT.
SungWon
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> Yes, and the ZPD reminds me of the term Gibson used to describe
> perception in a way, which made it possible to bridge between the
> objective and subjective perception, which he named "/affordances/".
>
> and I agree with Armando, the ZPD is something between the individual
> and the other(s) - and it gets facilitated by common joint activities.
>
> But that does not mean, that I can not take what I learn in a ZPD with
> me, to others places, other and maybe even more developmental ZPD's.
>
>
> Just a thought, - that the real fantastic principles in psychology are
> not either/or individual/collective principles, but both, at the same
> time, in a dialectical way.
>
> It is therefore so wonderful to read Vygotsky - ´cause nobody has,
> IMHO, come up with a clearer description of the ZPD than made by
> Vygotsky in Denken und Sprechen, 2002, which is the translation by
> Lompscher et al. .
>
> Volker
>
> Armando Perez skrev:
> > Eric: I dont like to look at ZPD as individual but as
> > a colective interperson al situation. This means that
> > ZPD do not belong to an individual but it is
> > constructed or co-constructed. I also work in
> > educational aplication of Vygotsky and I am tried to
> > unified the concept od ZPD and Social Situation odf
> > Development. What do you think about that
> > Armando
> >
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