Re: [xmca] Wertsch, context, deja vu: RE: LSV-& Dialogical Self -- context (withunrelated bonus non-irony irony)

From: Dorie Evensen (
Date: Mon Aug 21 2006 - 09:53:48 PDT

When reading about the intersubjectivity/alterity dialogic, I was reminded
of the O'Connor distinction between the benign aspect of cognitive
apprenticeship and the conflict inherent in cultural production. Might
these also allude to the contextual distinctions offered by Wertsch?
Dorie Evensen

At 12:26 PM 8/21/2006, you wrote:

> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>From: "Mike Cole" <>
> > Most generally, I worry that we conflate interweaving, relational
> notions of
> > contexts for container notions
>And yet, in the Nicolopoulou & Cole paper I'm reading, the library and the
>boys and girls club were not only relational contexts, but with the 5D
>embedded, physically, they were also, to a degree, containers. Perhaps if
>'relational' were to include the spatial relations often implicit in the
>achitectural dimensions of our culture(s), then conflation would turn to
>integration. For example, a cathedral makes possible worship, as Barker
>might claim, with its pews facing the alter, but also with its surrounding
>icons, ennobled arches, lights, windows, and the walls that allow the
>bishop to be heard above all 'outside' distractions. (Just a divergent
>I'm still figuring out alterity <-> intersubjectivity. I don't know why I
>find Wertsch so difficult to grok.
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