How would you relate the notion of persistant imitation to Vygotsky on the
one hand, and
Tomasello on the other, Steve? We can post any text on that topic in the
zoped page at xmca
mike
On 6/6/06, steve thorne <sthorne@psu.edu> wrote:
>
>
> hi Phil -- yes, i find Jim's observation to be a very good one --
> that imitation involves a kind of preemptive preparation for
> increased participation in activity.
>
> like you have, we found particularly Balwin's sense of "persistent
> imitation" very useful -- the kind of imitative actions that are goal
> directed, intentional, and cyclically developmental as the child (or
> person) modifies their performance in contrapuntal relation to the
> mental image of the original model. this fits very well with the
> notion of development as the resolution of contradictions, where
> iterative imitation constitutes the very process of internalization
> itself.
>
> Jim and i talk about imitation and internalization in detail in a
> recent book (lantolf & thorne: sociocultural theory and the genesis
> of second language development, oxford, 2006), with a discussion of
> supportive and quite compelling research coming out of usage-based
> models of language acquisition (Tomasello) and cognitive neuroscience
> (e.g., Arbib on mirror neurons; Meltzoff on neonate development and
> imitation). i have PDFs of all chapters for interested parties.
>
> steve
>
> >Mike, Steve T, Artin, and others interested in Baldwin's work,
> >
> >Thanks for the connections to Valsiner and van der Veer, and also
> >Cahan. My initial interest is in the two types of imitation that
> >Baldwin proposed - imitative suggestion and persistent imitation.
> >These forms of imitation could be thought of as a form involving
> >transformation and a form not (?). Steve, your colleague Jim
> >Lantolf, referring to V and VdV and also Baldwin, wrote that
> >"persistent imitation anticipates the future and as such involves
> >"feed-forward" (instead of feedback), which enables the organism to
> >preadapt to future encounters with the world". An interesting
> >thought.
> >
> >I'll certainly look up the book by "the V's"... thanks!
> >
> >Imitation and the zoped. Hm.
> >
> >
> >Phil
> >
> >
> >
> >
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