Yes,
I agree
> adults also change
I hope
Leif
2006-06-01 kl. 08.44 skrev SungWon Hwang:
> Hi all,
> I want to add short comments. I think what makes us feel uncomfortable
> in
> using the scaffolding metaphor is its silence about the fact that
> teachers
> and adults also change in interacting with their students and children.
> SungWon
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-bounces@weber.ucsd.edu]
>> On Behalf Of Leif Strandberg
>> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 3:02 PM
>> To: eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity
>> Subject: Re: [xmca] Re: SCAFFOLDING
>>
>> Hej Carol and all
>>
>> I agree with your student (the engineer) I think he is is right. I
>> have
>> never liked the concept of scaffolding - The Other as a physcial tool?
>> To me the concept of scaffolding belongs to the metaphores you could
>> find in the Five Year Plan-Era (the Party as transmission gear,
>> etcetera)
>>
>> I think we can find better metaphores from the world (languge games)
>> where these conecepts play role
>>
>> Revolutionary activity (Marx in "Thesis on Feuerbach")
>> Dialogues
>> Dialectics
>> I and Me (Mead and LSV - "Concrete Human Psychology" 2005
>> You and Me (Mead)
>> Sharing
>> Language games (Wittgenstein)
>> The dialectial relationship Change-Permanence
>> (Herakleitos-Paramenides)
>> The dialectial relationship Waves-Particals (Bohr, Heisenberg)
>>
>> Remember "You never awalk alone in the Zone of Proximal Development"
>> (Jacques Carpay)
>>
>> From Sweden
>>
>> Leif
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2006-05-31 kl. 13.41 skrev Carol Macdonald:
>>
>>> Hi Colleages
>>> Last year when I was teaching scaffolding, one of the students who is
>>> an
>>> engineer said that my metaphoric use of scaffolding was
>>> inappropriate.
>>> I
>>> taught that in a dyad the more competent other goes in and out in the
>>> interaction as the need dictates. He said that the scaffolding aways
>>> stays
>>> outside and when the building is finished it is dismantled. There is
>>> no
>>> going in and out here.
>>>
>>> Perhaps others use other metaphors that are smarter than mine: I
>>> would
>>> like
>>> to hear from you.
>>> Carol
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/30/06, Phil Chappell <philchappell@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I know we're all busy and this is an indulgence, but one of the
>>>> scaffolding stories from the building website caught my fancy. I
>>>> recall a conference in Japan a couple of years ago when the
>>>> presenter
>>>> took a dictionary definition of scaffolding (the building kind) and
>>>> then applied it rather haphazardly to language learning. I have
>>>> replaced all uses of "scaffolding" in the following newspaper report
>>>> with the term "assisted performance" to see how potentially tricky
>>>> and confusing metaphors can be. Of course, this has the potential of
>>>> being a big flop.
>>>>
>>>> ["This is a great scaffolding activity", said the busy teacher.]
>>>>
>>>> I'm also re-reading Chaiklin's chapter in the hope of responding to
>>>> Althea in a much more mature way than this.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Phil
>>>>
>>>> {Skip this if you're busy...}
>>>>
>>>> Fury over assisted performance bungle
>>>> From:
>>>> http://www.eveningstar.co.uk/content/eveningstar/news/story.aspx?
>>>>
>> brand=ESTOnline&category=News&tBrand=ESTOnline&tCategory=zNews&itemid
>> =
>>>> IP
>>>> ED23%20May%202006%2012%3A26%3A15%3A660
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> IT was not quite a scene from Romeo and Juliet, but an assisted
>>>> performance bungle left Karen Miller stranded upstairs while her
>>>> husband, Brian was stuck downstairs.
>>>>
>>>> Today, Mrs Miller is still trying to contain her anger after she
>>>> claimed she felt like a "prisoner in her own home" after temporary
>>>> assisted performance prevented her (from leaving her) Ipswich flat.
>>>>
>>>> When Karen Miller looked out of the door of her first floor flat on
>>>> Halton Crescent she realised the outside stairs leading from the
>>>> door
>>>> to the ground were blocked because some assisted performance had
>>>> been
>>>> provided.
>>>>
>>>> And her husband, Brian, who had left the house before the assisted
>>>> performance was available, was stuck at the bottom.
>>>>
>>>> Mrs Miller, 33, said: "I couldn't get to work and I couldn't leave
>>>> the house.
>>>>
>>>> "They put up a rickety step ladder but I didn't feel safe getting
>>>> down it or squeezing though the hole when they lifted up some of the
>>>> boards on the assisted performance and suggested I got out that way.
>>>>
>>>> "I kept thinking; what would happen if there was a fire because my
>>>> only escape was blocked. I felt like a prisoner in my own home."
>>>>
>>>> The assisted performance had been provided at about 9am on Monday in
>>>> order to repair the rending on property which had blown away.
>>>>
>>>> The work was carried out by Ipswich-based OBO Assisted Performance
>>>> Company on behalf of Ipswich Borough Council, but although the
>>>> couple's neighbours were informed the work was taking place Mr
>>>> Miller, 37, said he had no idea.
>>>>
>>>> He said: "We didn't hear anyone knock on the door and we didn't get
>>>> a
>>>> letter.
>>>>
>>>> "We know the work has to be done but we should have known about it
>>>> in
>>>> advance.
>>>>
>>>> "I am petrified of heights and always have been so there was no way
>>>> I
>>>> was going up the ladder so I have been stuck downstairs.
>>>>
>>>> "Surely they could have found a way to do the work without blocking
>>>> the entrance and exit to the house."
>>>>
>>>> Councillor Steven Wells, Ipswich Borough Council's Housing
>>>> portfolio-
>>>> holder said: "We would like to say sorry to the tenants for this
>>>> breakdown in communication.
>>>>
>>>> "Our normal procedure is to always talk to tenants first but in this
>>>> case we can only apologise for the inconvenience caused.
>>>>
>>>> "We are looking at our procedures to ensure this does not happen
>>>> again."_______________________________________________
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