Re: [xmca] LCA: Speaking of antinomies

From: Mike Cole (lchcmike@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Jul 24 2005 - 08:56:26 PDT


Su Inglese es mejor////// than our Spanish, in General, Armando. Just
as Sasha's English is far luche than my Russian. Milles gracia por su
trabajo en xmca.
mike

On 7/24/05, Armando Perez <armreyper@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Michael:
> As professor thatīs what I do with my students. Since
> a lot of time, in all circunstances, I always try to
> construc a colective projec. To integtrate
> colectivelly by no way means to homogenize, but to put
> contradictions in play, to work out the difference in
> a common, or beter to say, a collective projec.
> Contradictions will no desapear but ramain integrated
> in somethink that trascend you and, at the same time,
> permit to be yourself.
> I should like of receiving from you those articles you
> mention, because, in Cuba we have no opportunities to
> acces.
> I always ask you to forgive my English because I kow
> that it is no very good enough.
> Thanks a lot
> Armando
>
>
> --- Wolff-Michael Roth <mroth@uvic.ca> wrote:
>
> > Hi Armando,
> > I agree the necessity for doing the kind of work you
> > outline in your
> > last sentence. This is why I conceptualized, for
> > example, science
> > education as an endeavor where students learn while
> > engaging in and for
> > social action. E.g.,
> >
> >
> > Roth, W.-M., & Lee, S. (2004). Science education
> > as/for participation
> > in the community. Science Education, 88, 263–291.
> > Roth, W.-M., & Lee, S. (2002). Scientific literacy
> > as collective
> > praxis. Public Understanding of Science, 11, 33–56.
> >
> > But this means that educators have to change. If we
> > educate as and for
> > collective praxis, then it is no longer important
> > that everyone knows
> > the same thing at the same time. Rather, what we
> > need to be able to do
> > is engage with others who think and feel very
> > differently, and do so
> > without putting them down, that is, in democratic
> > ways so that we can
> > cogenerate solutions to the problems we face as a
> > collective.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > On 24-Jul-05, at 7:10 AM, Armando Perez wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Michael:
> > > I m really in accord with you that it is in
> > practice,
> > > action that are integrated both planes of
> > > subjectivity, that I work out as colective and
> > > personal(inter and inter). I agree also that both
> > are
> > > premise and results of practice, action. But, if
> > it is
> > > possible to establish theoretically and
> > > epistemologically that in its genesis, development
> > and
> > > so on both are transversalizased for practice, in
> > its
> > > real movement may be in real antagonism,
> > > contradiction. Thatīs why we are working, now, in
> > > Cuba, as projects of research, in the development
> > of a
> > > community that could integtrate as much as
> > possible
> > > the personal and the social in a community
> > project.
> > > Armando
> > >
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