Re: Capitalism Sucks - RE: Breaking away?

From: Mike Cole (lchcmike@gmail.com)
Date: Wed Mar 30 2005 - 19:41:52 PST


Well, personally speaking, I like to live in various broken away
worlds, of which the
5th Dimension is one. But it is certainly peripheral. At least it is a
medium for exploring new identies. But I have in mind Geoff Hayward's
questions and David's
statement that formal ed should be about fomenting breaking away.

Perhaps an issue well worth discussing in the hallowed (hollowed?)
halls of AERA.
What are we doing there? Should we be making movies instead? Reading novels?
(I just read a fine one by Penelope Lively that was all about be
broken and away from).

What practice goes with this form of theorizing?

As for the quaries, I suspect a little too cold out there on route 3
for me right now.
mike

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 22:16:02 -0500, Cunningham, Donald J.
<cunningh@indiana.edu> wrote:
> Grinch, huh. That must account for the green ring around some of the
> quarries.
>
> It's my bed time so I will be brief but there are several literatures
> one could consult. David Kirshner cited one today, identity. The stone
> cutter has a well established identity but this identity does not allow
> him to feel comfortable in the building his stone enabled. The son is
> struggling with his identity. He says he is a "cutter" (the actual term
> we use is "stoney"). His father disagrees! So what is he?
>
> I link identity and umwelt, one's personal world. The strength of the
> movie "Breaking Away" is that it touched a "real" difference that
> persists to this day in Bloomington. I'm sure a number of university
> towns have the same town/gown issues. Is learning the acquisition of
> skills or the cultivation of an identity that others come to recognize?
> Wenger's recent work is another literature that has stressed identity.
> Most of the "social semiotic" literature is about this. One
> discontinuity is that between the identity an individual assumes for
> him/her self and what others recognize. I for example, am a legend only
> in my own mind!
>
> None of this is particularly empirical in what I take to be the spirit
> of your request. What would you prefer?
>
> Don Cunningham
> Indiana University
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Cole [mailto:lchcmike@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:49 PM
> To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> Subject: Re: Capitalism Sucks - RE: Breaking away?
>
> Sorry to be playing the grinch here because I love all the examples.
> But, Don (your
> message is most recent) could you point us ot an empirical study of
> development
> (the functional reorganization of psychological processes with respect
> to each other and the way they relate organism and environment -- a
> provisional LSV-type
> definition) that would allow us as educators-developers to be in a
> position to promote the process thought to be desirable?
> mike
>
> On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:41:56 -0500, Cunningham, Donald J.
> <cunningh@indiana.edu> wrote:
> > Pretty scary, Tony. That is exactly the scene I cite and that I have
> > indexed on my video tape. That and the scene where he discovers that
> the
> > "Italian" bike team cheats. Could you leave it up or let me post it on
> a
> > server here (no real Hoosier would object)?
> >
> > Here again, the "irritation of doubt" promotes growth.
> >
> > Barbara Barrie often quotes Marx in the film so Paul Dooley was
> > undoubtedly about to offer a pithy quote then thought better of
> > it.......djc
> >
> > Don Cunningham
> > Indiana University
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tony Whitson [mailto:twhitson@udel.edu]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:13 PM
> > To: mcole@weber.ucsd.edu; xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> > Subject: Capitalism Sucks - RE: Breaking away?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mike Cole [mailto:lchcmike@gmail.com]
> > Still in the realm of fiction, Don. Hoosier style?
> > mike -----------
> > -----------------
> >
> > maybe, Mike, but there can be much truth in fiction.
> >
> > Breaking Away is a great movie -- won Academy Award for Best
> Screenplay.
> > It also contains the most succinct presentation I know of Marx's
> theory
> > of
> > alienation: ("Capital is dead labour, that, vampire-like, only lives
> by
> > sucking living labour, and lives the more, the more labour it sucks."
> > Capital Vol. I Chapter Ten )
> >
> > In other words, the material conditions that limit the freedom of
> living
> > workers are imposed by the appropriation past ("dead") labor, which,
> in
> > the
> > form of capital, dictates the conditions of employment for current
> > ("living") labor.
> >
> > The scene takes place outside the IU's (limestone) library building.
> > A PDF file slideshow of the scene can be downloaded from
> > www.udel.edu/educ/whitson/files/BA2library.pdf
> >
> > Because of the file size [1.5 Meg] I will keep the file there only for
> > the
> > next two weeks.
> >
> > Bonus question for Don Cunningham (or anybody else who's seen this
> movie
> > more than once):
> >
> > What did the father stop himself from telling the son (which would
> have
> > completed the sentence that begins "Well, your mom ...") ?
> >
> > I never made this connection before, but it reminds me of
> > Sennett's "Hidden Injuries of Class."
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cunningham, Donald J. [mailto:cunningh@indiana.edu]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 8:23 PM
> > To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
> > Subject: Breaking away?
> >
> > http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&id=1800041061&cf=info&intl=us
> >
> > Don Cunningham
> > Indiana University
> >
> > On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 20:22:51 -0500, Cunningham, Donald J.
> > <cunningh@indiana.edu> wrote:
> > > http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&id=1800041061&cf=info&intl=us
> > >
> > > Don Cunningham
> > > Indiana University
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>



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