Wolfowitz was leftist? I did not know that! Please, tell a bit about it.
David Preiss, M.Phil.
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De: Judy Diamondstone [mailto:jdiamondstone@clarku.edu]
Enviado el: Thursday, November 11, 2004 3:51 PM
Para: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
Asunto: RE: Civil War vs Election
Peter, do you have a source for your statement that Jews vote(d)
overwhelmingly democratic? i am assuming that the statistical picture
would be more complex -- & show, for instance, perhaps, a generational,
if not occupational, divide... Some of the neocons who shaped the
international policies of this administration were once left-y Jews
(Wolfowitz &??)... They used their old Idealism (things CAN be
different) in the service of (?) adult ego-centrism (?) (i.e., the world
would be a better place if it behaved and thought like us) to design US
imperialism.
Well, I'm uneasy about sending this off, but in the spirit of Veterans
Day and trouble-making, I will....
Judy
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From: Peter Smagorinsky [mailto:smago@coe.uga.edu]
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 12:36 PM
To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
Subject: RE: Civil War vs Election
I'm sure there are many factors. Florida is also home to many Jews (who
vote overwhelmingly Democratic) and African Americans (also Dems) and
many other relocators from the north. I doubt if I'm really qualified to
make sense of it....p
At 01:57 PM 11/11/2004 -0300, you wrote:
Yes, that was what I realized. But I was wondering whether there was
something else and what was the relation between neo-conservadurism and
the old slave traditions. On the other hand, the South is voting
Republican since a long time ago. In addition, in some cases, such as
Florida, the relation is not straightforward, I guess, since it is
linked with the political behavior of the Hispanics and Cuban politics.
In short, even though there is a relation, I wondered about its nature
and local peculiarities.
David Preiss, M.Phil.
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De: Peter Smagorinsky [mailto:smago@coe.uga.edu]
Enviado el: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:30 PM
Para: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
Asunto: RE: Civil War vs Election
only simply right now (I've got a manuscript review to complete): the
maps overlap to suggest that a great deal of Bush's support comes from
states that once advocated slavery (and where the vestiges of slavery
are still evident in housing segregation, economic disparities, etc.).
Not a very hopeful sign in these times. p
At 12:07 PM 11/11/2004 -0300, you wrote:
This map is worth discussing.
Beyond the descriptive coincidences, how would you put the match in a
narrative framework, Peter?
David Preiss, M.Phil.
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De: Peter Smagorinsky [mailto:smago@coe.uga.edu]
Enviado el: Thursday, November 11, 2004 7:51 AM
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Asunto: Fwd: Civil War vs Election
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