Re: online seminar

From: Vera John-Steiner (vygotsky@unm.edu)
Date: Fri Sep 13 2002 - 14:03:40 PDT


    Hi,
    That is a good reading list, I would add Vygotsky's Thought and Language
at least for those interested in literacy
-and Luria's Working Brain, and Cole's Cultural psychology,
Vera John Steiner---- Original Message -----
From: <david_eddy_spicer@harvard.edu>
To: <xmca@weber.ucsd.edu>
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 12:58 PM
Subject: RE: online seminar

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> I have wanted a chance to try Knowledge Forum and would welcome the
> opportunity to do so in this context. I don't know Syllabase, and I wonder
> how Jim might compare the two. My hunch is that the conceptual foundations
> of KF--which make it more amenable to co-construction as opposed to the
> transfer predicates of standard courseware--mean that KF probably has a
> sharper learning curve but offers more for the time invested in mastery.
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> I think Gordon's idea of strands is good, and I would also like to get a
> "lay of the land". My particular interest is in CHAT & workplace learning;
> it would be great to convene with others sharing that interest, maybe
> working as a special interest group within the course to come up with a
> list of readings for the larger group and serving as facilitators when the
> general group discusses that particular area. But I would also want other
> strands to do the same so I can get a broader context for current research
> and practice.
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> Perhaps a rough structure something like this might work, based on 14
weeks
> (October through January, with ample time off for holidays): 6 weeks on
> seminal texts; 4 weeks within smaller, "strand" groups; 4 weeks devoted to
> the general group exploring one strand a week.
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> I realize this kind of discussion will soon bore the pants off those on
> xmca not interested in taking part, so we should think about when to make
> the move to a new venue. BUT, before this trundles away, it would be great
> to get some thoughts about "seminal texts" in particular, and how to cover
> these bearing in mind the concern Mike raised about overload.
>
> So, what would those on this list put down as representative foundational
> works that a seminar like this should cover and could cover in a handful
of
> weeks?
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> Yrjo's group has a brief overview online:
> http://www.edu.helsinki.fi/activity/6.htm
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> Are these the works you would include as stepping stones?
>
> David
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> David Eddy Spicer
> Doctoral candidate
> Learning and Teaching
> Harvard Graduate School of Education
> http://gseacademic.harvard.edu/~eddyspda/
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> gwells who-is-at cats.ucsc
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> 09/12/02 11:58 Subject: RE: online seminar
> PM
> Please respond
> to xmca
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> I'm wondering whether we might not have takers for this
> seminar/course who have rather different long-term interests. For
> example, there may be some who are interested in bringing CHAT to
> bear on work situations, others interested in out-of-school or
> museum-type activities, and others interested in K-12 school
> settings, etc. Would it be a good idea to see the seminar as having
> two strands: one general and concerned with the seminal texts, and
> the other with specific applications? If so, perhaps different people
> might take responsibility for the different strands.
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> As far as a discussion forum is concerned, I should like to recommend
> the Knowledger Forum. I have been using it for a number of years in
> both face-to-face classes and in distance mode. In both, I have
> found it very satisfactory. It can be used at two levels: 1) it
> simply provides a forum for threaded discourse, organized according
> to specific topics ("views"); 2) it provides means for "rising above"
> the post-by-post discussion to explore themes within the discussion
> and to carry out a variety of analyses - by participants as well as
> by the teachers - of issues that have proved of sustained or
> profound interest. If you are interested, you can see how it has
> served my student cohort in the introductory course for prospective
> teachers (at the first level only, so far) by logging in at
> http://knowledgeforum.ucsc.edu:27320/ First selct EDUC250_FALL02 as
> the database and then log in with Username: visitor and Password:
> guest
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> If this is of interest, I could relatively easily create a new
> database for the envisaged seminar/course.
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> Gordon
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> Gordon Wells
> UC Santa Cruz.
> gwells@cats.ucsc.edu http://people.ucsc.edu/~gwells/
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