Re: continuing discussion

From: N (vygotsky@charter.net)
Date: Thu Jul 11 2002 - 18:39:56 PDT


Community?

Phillip Capper wrote:

>Thanks Mike
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>You wrote
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>" I assume by culture you mean the attribution of pilot reactions to
>something
>of the sort "Russians are told to follow human orders over belief in
>equipment"
>or some such generalization of the sort bandied about.
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>But where is culture, in this sense, in Yrjo's expanded triangle? And
>aren't tools and rules constituents of culture? Might whata you are talking
>about be usefully worked upon by examinging the category of rules and its
>heteroglosic uses? (As in norms, values, .......)? This is not a known
>answer question, but a concrete case, I hope, of the issues you raised a
>few days ago."
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>My answer to your first question is - everywhere.
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>My answer to your second question is -- yes.
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>But how are we to think about the rules and tools in cases like this? First
>there are a set of international procedures that have evolved over time. But
>in reality they are not a truly negotiated set of procedures - they are
>dominated by the cultural and historical contexts of the major airliner
>manufacturing countries - the United States and France. For some countries
>they are simply an external imposition. These rules (and the implication of
>what tools they apply to) are then translated into many languages. What
>cultural lenses are the understandings passed through in the translation?
>and then they are implemented - once again passing through a set of complex
>lenses with the remediation that thereby occurs.
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>At the end of those filterings we do have local predispositions. It may not
>be true to say "Russians are told to follow human orders over belief in
>equipment", but it may be possible to say that "in some contexts there is a
>predisposition to follow human orders over belief in equipment, and this
>predisposition is more frequently found in some national settings than
>others, one of which is Russia." And we might seek to understand the
>dynamics of such a circumstance through a CHAT analysis
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>Phillip Capper,
>Centre for Research on Work, Education and Business Ltd. (WEB Research),
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