So, does appropriation encompass internalization? For me, appropriations
usefulness is in describing aspects of the social that are not internalyzed
perse. But it seems possible to have one and not the other. For example, a
child with downs syndrom appropriating the activity of reading (looking
through dictionary) yet not internalyzing skills / practices necessary to
"read".
I ask because it seems to me they are both useful concepts, and that
appropriation does not necessarily encompass the concept of internalization.
Nate
>From: Bill Barowy <wbarowy@attbi.com>
>Reply-To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
>To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
>Subject: stability & change / hot and cold
>Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 09:57:34 -0400
>
>Relevant to this thread perhaps are the apparently polysemous notions of
>hot
>culture and cold culture -- and the ones in mind are those representing
>respectively the differences between people in action and the products of
>people in action. I think Giddens uses the terms differently, referring to
>cultures in which change is rapid i.e. the one inclusive of the U.S. as
>compared to those in which change is not so rapid. What is the relation?
>--
>I mean, after all, in the latter sense of hot culture, there seems to be
>the tendency for the proliferation of cold culture in the former sense.
>Huh.
> Hot culture, in the intersection of both senses, seems to be where the
>straight uptake and the transformation of artifacts (re Wartofsky) not only
>cross-generationally, but inter-generationally, are processes that are more
>in balance than in cold culture (former sense).
>
>Nevertheless, "conservative" seems a value-laden charge, and does not
>describe how i take the term "appropriation". Appropriation is, IMHO, an
>excellent start to causal description because its use per se raises the
>question "appropriate to whom?", immediately opening the door between
>learning, and development at the individual mind-brain (re Lang), i.e.
>actions within as material changes, and more salient actions in its
>contexts
>-- raising the question of how culture reproduces and produces anew.
>"Appropriation" does not necessarily mean appropriate-to-the-investigator,
>but appropriate within the context, as can be uncovered through an
>ethnographic investigation. That's not to say that there are mind-brain
>changes that are not appropriate as revealed by ethnography, and uncovering
>those seem to bring in processes of creativity of the genres appearing in
>studies of "the lads" and skateparks. Skateparks, i posit, being the
>products of the social reponses to in-appropriate skateboard creativity.
>
>Anyway, gotta run and make a living using little of the investigatory
>skills
>i learned in my scientific training. That was another place and time, and,
>on the surface, they no longer seem... appropriate.
>
>;-)
>
>bb
>
>
>...you may be through with the past, but the past is not through with
>you...
>[from the film "Magnolia"]
>
nAtE
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