Re: It does matter

From: Nate (vygotsky@home.com)
Date: Mon Oct 01 2001 - 04:21:58 PDT


Paul,

I think right here you've hit it on the head. I mean if there was a world
court there are countless issues where the US is out of step with the
"World Community".

Nate

At 06:00 PM 9/30/2001 -0700, you wrote:

>Eric,
>
>I will be brief. The transcendence of the kind of acts of total war (war
>against civilians) presupposes that all nations agree to submit to a
>common global system of justice. A world court where those who commit
>heirnous crimes against humanity (either quick ones like 9-11 or more
>prolonged ones like Chile and Argentina) will be brought to justice
>according to an international system of law (parallel if you will to our
>international economy). For such a court to work, an independent force,
>must be empowered to enter ANY country to apprehend any person(s) who have
>conspired, aided, abbetted, or committed these acts. Henry Kissinger,
>General Pinochet, Osama bin Laden , and others should be brought before
>this court. a Hague where Americans can also be charged and put on
>trial. This international system of law must also be empowered to stop
>rogue nations, etc.
>
>The United States, while insistis on all these prerogatives in its own
>right. It makes "alliances" but makes if quite clear that it will not be
>restrained from acting as it sees necessary by any conditions. We will
>act with or without YOU and, by the way, you're either with US or against
>US. While insisting on the right to go around the world imposing its will
>as it sees fit and possible (pragmatic americans), the U.S. refuses to
>submit to and be bound by an independent international body that could
>also bring U.S. citizens, government officials, and organizations before
>it.. As such, at least in the eyes of the rest of the world whom we now
>recognize as 'necessary' , it does make a great deal of difference whether
>our own terrorist aiders and abetters are brought to justice or if its
>just theirs, just the ones with dark skin, just the ones who pray
>differently, just the ones who resist the tentacles of global capitalism
>(anti-WTO organizers are already classified as a type of terrorist by the
>U.S. government).
>
>
>
>If the U.S. were to participate in and submit to such a court I think the
>consequences would be profoundly positive for everyone in the world.
>
>
>Unfortunately, this isn't the scenario I see as most probable and
>sometimes I can't help but think about Edgar Allen Poe's "The Fall of the
>House of Usher" in this context.
>
>We've had it quite easy being the world's bully but as Buffy Sainte Marie
>wrote, one pities
>
>' the blindness that you've (we've) never seen
>that the eagles of war whose wings lent you (us) glory
>were never no more than carrion crow
>pushed the wren from her nest, stole the eggs, changed the story.'
>
>Our country 'tis of thy people . . .
>
>pace to all who are jumping on some band wagon called UNITY driven by the
>yellow thief himself -- you'll have to excuse me because
>
>My Grief is Not a Call for War
>
>if there's anything that must be done, it must be done equitably, in
>other words, no talk about draining swamps until we ourselves stop pumping
>the water in there to stagnate.
>
>
>Paul H. Dillon
>
>
>
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