RE: the chemical-biological

From: Nate Schmolze (nate_schmolze@yahoo.com)
Date: Sat Nov 04 2000 - 05:47:31 PST


Diane,

First I need to say I have read Leontev more as a brief outline adding much
content along the way. I also admit on my end a bias toward bio-chemical
analysis because I see them more or less locating problem etc in the
individual. My response to Peter was thinking concretely about ways this
would play out in home or school.

We could also take your example of "phobias, neuroses, fears, anxieties,
depressions, obsessive-compulsives" and ask if we are really that far off
from each other in regards to how they need to be analyzed - thought of - in
the context of activity. Does it matter if we see neuroses from a chemical
standpoint or one where Activity is emphasized. In general I think kids
needing to be medicated is directly related to how standards and such are
changing how they are taught. A chemical standpoint will not bring this out,
but an activity one may. For me, Activity offers the most poential in
examining the complicated interactions you mentioned because it has the
potential to examine it on a variety of levels.

Nate

-----Original Message-----
From: Diane Hodges [mailto:dhodges@ceo.cudenver.edu]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 8:38 AM
To: xmca@weber.ucsd.edu
Subject: the chemical-biological

Nate, in response to Peter, writes
> A pragmatic question would be how do we hash these differences
>out and it seems to me a focus on activity would have some potential here.
>One where is it not only the properties of the individual but also the
>organization of work place, classroom etc. It seems to me the starting
>point
>is important - if one takes the individual, biological, chemical as
>primary
>a lot of factors are excluded and one ends up with kids (or adults) on
>medication (or not) for a variety of reasons.

There are not only chemical imbalances that differentiate neural activity,
and there is not only the condition of those who are medicated who make up
the difference in social engagement -
i mean, every brain is wired according to particular experiences, and
general neurology,
chemical activity in the brain is both identifiable, and yet not identical
from person to person,
but infinitely variable - interacting with external resources such as
sugar, chocolate, coffee,
soda pop, peanut butter, weed, booze, cigarettes, LSD, ecstasy, - from the
simplest to most extreme example, - there are memories, phobias, neuroses,
fears, anxieties, depressions, obsessive-compulsives, all of which are
chemical characteristics of participation - there are chemical variables
that effect behaviours in the individual
that exceed the "observation" premise of Activity.

I mean, ----- augh. forget it. please. resume the robotic model of
human-activity.
clearly the body is disruptive to the purity of this discussion.
tsk. i must be in the wrong class. better check my schedule.
diane

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diane celia hodges

 university of british columbia, centre for the study of curriculum and
instruction
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 university of colorado, denver, school of education

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