Embodied mind responses

From: Peter JONES (P.E.Jones@shu.ac.uk)
Date: Thu Jun 08 2000 - 04:03:09 PDT


8 june 2000
from peter jones
many many thanks to all for responses in what is becoming a fantastic
discussion. so now i am going to crawl off into my little corner temporarily to
read, ponder and respond to comments by judy, paul, nate, elisa, diane. but one
or two instant comments:
1) to judy: thanks for these comments but did i really say 'a consciousness
verified by the practice of contemporary society' which sounds absolutely
ghastly and utterly positivist??!! i can't pin the quote down in the paper -
have you got the page ref for it?
2)Ilyenkov's 'the concept of the ideal' is in a collectively edited volume
published in 1977 by Progress called 'Philosophy in the USSR: Problems of
Dialectical Materialism'. But i would also recommend in the strongest terms
Chapter 8 of his book 'Dialectical Logic' (Progress again, 1977) which has one
of the best, if not the best, discussions of Marxist philosophy of language (in
relation to the concept of the ideal) you can find. David Bakhurst's discussion
of the ideal in his book on ilyenkov is excellent although i have taken issue
with some aspects of his interpretation. at the risk of sounding immodest there
is a chapter by me on the ideal ('the ideal and cultural historical activity
theory: issues and perspectives') in the forthcoming volume of papers from
aarhus iscrat conference, edited by seth chaiklin. under seth's extremely
patient guidance this piece has been written as a kind of introduction to the
thing. but interpretations of this stuff differ and mine may be as wonky as
hell.
all the best, folks!
P



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