as usual i cant say anything intelligent about vygotsky but mike's
question resonated with me in a peircean way. peirce would make the
distinction between belief and meaning. belief is a psychological
phenomenon that we might and sometimes do modify -- he would say
'make/construct belief' if he had been wont to use that sort of language.
meaning however is something that is constitutive of reality, and is
actually the form of order that we can best discover in the world via
logic. but meaning was not a psychological concept for peirce at all --
my blind and dogged devotion to peirce makes me wince when i come acrpss
the notion of 'constructing meaning' and constructivism in general, but
this is a problem of mine and not of the world at large -- but would it be
so....
gary shank
shank@duq.edu
ps my daughter morgan, who is one nifty web designer, just finished and
loaded my personal homepage at
http://www.home.duq.edu/~shank
eat your hearts out, all of ye :-)
On Sun, 2 Apr 2000, Peter Smagorinsky wrote:
> Mike, good questions that plague me still--I think the distinction is
> important, if not always clear to me.
>
> Briefly, as I understand Vygotsky, sense refers to that which is
> unarticulated (inner speech) and meaning refers to that which is
> articulated (represented). Any help out there on this?
>
> Peter
>
> At 10:59 AM 4/2/00 -0700, you wrote:
>
> >hi Peter --
> >
> >In reading your paper, I kept finding myself wondering about the role
> >of a sense/meaning distinction in your thinking. A lot of he time I felt
> >myself wanting to replace uses of the term meaning with the term sense.
> >Perhaps a way to get at my question is with the following question: Is
> >it useful to speak of "personal meaning" or "making meaning of the text"
> >and if so when (in contrast with spaking of "personal sense" and
> >"making sense of the text."
> >
> >I believe that my confusions are related to issue of designative and
> >expressive aspects of meaning and whether they are completmentary or
> >incommsurable, but am too confused to be sure.
> >mike
>
>
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