Re: december reading

From: Judy Diamondstone (diamonju@rci.rutgers.edu)
Date: Sat Dec 11 1999 - 08:29:58 PST


>So now I am reading Diane's challenge to Stanton sympathetically, although I
>realize that it is, in some sense, a challenge for him to take up a "less
>male" stance -- to be someone other than who he is as a researcher.

does that sound weird or no? Of course I was sympathetic from the start, but
liking what I'd gotten from the paper.

it was foolish to imagine diane's challenge in the terms i did; i've already
thanked eva for nailing it.

as usual, judith repositioning

>Because I know that I would have appropriated Stanton's 'tools' to do an
>analysis that would likely pass the test of compassionate, I am less
>critical of what he did as Stanton -- the analyst who displays scientific
>rigor and dispassion, risking nothing in the analysis, emotionally...
>
>I've become corrupted by a bit of realism, perhaps?
>
>Judy
>
>Stanton
>>It seems to me that the position of the analyst in such work is one of
>>various legitimate issues for discussion, not the only one. So you ask
>>whether my analysis is "a further extension of institutionalizing this
>>woman's experience." Not in the sense that it will affect her at all,
>>under the almost certain assumption that she will never see this work.
>>In the sense that it too adopts a distanced stance on her experiences,
>>perhaps. But it's a long way from institutionalizing someone to writing
>>analytically about them.
>
>Diane
>>I am concerned that you see no conflict with reading a woman's
>>trauma-narrative in the contexts of scientific rigour - this is what
>>discourses and objective practices have done to women for thousands of
>>years- how do script this for yourself as so unproblematic?
>>
>>As for self-accounts I don't mean 'what's your trauma?' but what's your
>>investment? Where are you in this writing? What's your account ? what's
>>your story? What's it like to read how an academic-scripted interview
>>evoked the grief in another?
>
>
>>The art of how people like Margaret represent their
>>trauma, the maintenance and perhaps the transformation of processes that
>>sustain the impact such trauma has on people, take place in part through
>>the sorts of positioning that I am trying to study. If we give up
>>working systematically on these sorts of data, we lose an opportunity to
>>understand and perhaps intervene.
>
>
>
>
>At 05:53 PM 12/10/99 -0500, you wrote:
>>Diane--
>>
>>You say: "the only interaction, it seems to me, that you can - or ought
>>to - account for, is that of the absent analyst, interacting with your
>>own desires to re-present personal trauma in the contexts of social
>>science discourse."
>>
>>Do you really mean the "only"? Shouldn't we try to analyze interactions
>>that do not involve ourselves for various reasons -- including an
>>attempt to develop better scientific understandings of how they work?
>>Personalization of everything would become narcissism when directed to
>>self and rudeness when directed to others.
>>
>>It seems to me that the position of the analyst in such work is one of
>>various legitimate issues for discussion, not the only one. So you ask
>>whether my analysis is "a further extension of institutionalizing this
>>woman's experience." Not in the sense that it will affect her at all,
>>under the almost certain assumption that she will never see this work.
>>In the sense that it too adopts a distanced stance on her experiences,
>>perhaps. But it's a long way from institutionalizing someone to writing
>>analytically about them.
>>
>>--
>>Stanton Wortham
>>Graduate School of Education
>>University of Pennsylvania
>>3700 Walnut Street
>>Philadelphia, PA 19104-6216
>>(215) 898-6307
>>http://www.upenn.edu/gse/fac/wortham/
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>Judith Diamondstone (732) 932-7496 Ext. 352
>Graduate School of Education
>Rutgers, the State University of New Jersey
>10 Seminary Place
>New Brunswick, NJ 08901-1183
>
>
>

Judith Diamondstone (732) 932-7496 Ext. 352
Graduate School of Education
Rutgers, the State University of New Jersey
10 Seminary Place
New Brunswick, NJ 08901-1183



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