L*
>xmca who-is-at weber.ucsd.edu writes:
> >
>Leigh wrote -
> >
> >I wonder if we could say something like the positive/negative valence
> >depends on whether or not you are alone?
>
>during the last year exploring adult development using chat as a theoretic
>lens - really, to keep me focused and 'disciplined' - and at the same time
>reading the literature of adult development regarding lesbians and gays,
>it seemed that WWII was an enormous watershed in the breaching of the
>isolation for those outside of the major metropolitan areas, which did
>have thriving gay and lesbian communities.
>
> >There's a resonance in your talk about the queerest among us being the
> >most
> >radical twisters.
>
> however, i also learned that those gays and lesbians who really
>pushed the cultural/social limits were mostly working-class, blue-collar
>folk - the more economically and socially privileged one were, the more
>likely it seemed to be that one was all the more closeted.
>
> Stonewall Bar was, afterall, a blue collar bar - and similar
>riots in San Francisco in the earlier 60's were also working class gay
>actions.
>
> so, although Cecil Beaton - one example - is certainly queerly
>queer, you wouldn't find that lady on the barricades.
>
> the lastest movie about this "Boys don't cry" is exactly about a
>woman who loves women - she refuses to identify herself as lesbian / dyke
>- and moves within a working class milieu - was certainly pushing the
>limits of radical gender bending.
>
> academia as a whole is highly reticent to position itself queerly -
>and often confronts what it doesn't like through silence.
>
>phillip
> >
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> >L*
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