Re: question on class

Judy Diamondstone (diamonju who-is-at rci.rutgers.edu)
24 Oct 1999 22:01:44 -0000

Rosa, Unfortunately, I don't have my anthropology & ed. journals or the
particular book I discuss here in my office where I am at the moment. I will
try to remember to find the article I was referring to and get more specific
references. The more interesting parsing I mentioned was done by Roz Ivanic
in a book I'm now reviewing. Roz has worked for a long time with adults
returning to academia & struggling with academic writing - an interest dear
to me too. She uses Goffman & Halliday & the critical discourse folks where
she is at the Institute of Education to distinguish the various selves that
interact & get acted upon in the work of appropriating and resisting
academic writing. I love the idea of an autobiographical self, through which
the wider cultural context gets realized, and the discoursal self -- I have
writing samples from an urban school, 1980s, taken throughout the schooling
history of selected students, and as I have been going through them, I am
looking at kinds of patterning that seem differentially stable/fluid across
tasks & years. The data may not be rich enough to support the kind of
analysis Ivanic proposes, but it's still VERY interesting.

Judy

At 09:35 AM 10/24/99 -0600, you wrote:
>
>
>On 22 Oct 1999, Judy Diamondstone wrote:
>
>> I've been
>> paying attention to similar questions in different literatures, which seem
>> motivated in part by a concern for complexity and for parsing out different
>> strata or time depths in sociocultural phenomena - like the distinction
>> between the situated social self and the "cultural" or enduring self; or the
>> autobiographical self, the discoursal self, the writing self....
>
>Judy,
>
>Could you say something more about what you have been working on and the
>different "selves" you mention. I'm interested in the positioning of the
>self in discourse and the presentation or display of a "self" to an
>"other" (at the moment I'm working through Ricoeur's "Self as other" in
>this respect) but ultimately with the goal of getting at how that "other"
>is being perceived and constructed.
>
>Narratology and some of the French semioticians seem to be concerned with
>the "parsing out of these multiple strata" but their vocabulary is
>sometimes daunting unless you've been initiated.
>
>All my best, Rosa
>
>
>Rosa Graciela Montes
>Universidad Autonoma de Puebla, Puebla (MEXICO)
>
>

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