Re: Dolly the Sheep is Dying

Ethel Tobach (tobach who-is-at amnh.org)
Tue, 01 Jun 1999 14:58:59 -0400

Would that we all could write like that. And would that we all recognized
the errors that we see in the media which lead to confusion among people.
Maybe literacy would be helpful. Ethel

At 07:07 PM 5/29/99 +0100, you wrote:
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>> For me the lesson to be learned about the cells in Dolly's body is that it
>> is a good example of ignorance of dialectical materialism: the
>geneticists
>> do not try to look for and understand the fundamental contradictions of
>> change (growth and development), treating the "gene" and the cell as
>though
>> they are unconnected, independent and not related to the organism and
>the
>> world in which the organism lives. The need for Vygotsky and xmca
>> (activity theory people) to become literate in molecular genetics and the
>> relation to behavioral development is great if we are to be able to guard
>> against the misuse of genetics in educational and other societal policies.
>> Ethel
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>Steven Rose's latest splendidly dialectical book 'Lifelines' contains two
>polemics (a) against genetic determinism, which he says is based on wrong
>science; (b) against what he calls 'Universal Darwinism' (Dawkins and co).
>As usual with Rose's books there's quite a lot of philosophy, reflections on
>the practice of science and social critique all from a Marxist viewpoint.
>And I could understand it without ever having studied biology even in
>school, let alone 'become literate in molecular genetics'...
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>Bruce Robinson
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>> At 08:12 AM 5/28/99 -0700, Daniel F Webster wrote:
>> >I hear reports that in testing Dolly scientists have discovered that the
>> >cells in Dolly's body are refelctive of the cells in sheep her mother's
>> >age; she will likely die before others of her generation. Isn't it like
>> >that in education, hanging onto the basic, the tried-and-true without
>> >consideration for the delights of discovery and independence of the
>> >individual human spirit?
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>> >+ Dan +
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