Your response conveys the honorable memory of Arne Raeithel and the respect for
sharing I have encountered on the xmca.
Thank you very much.
Molly
Eva Ekeblad wrote:
> At 10.02 -0700 98-05-14, Molly Freeman wrote:
> >Eva,
> >
> >The archives are a wonderful resource. Can you please post the copyright
> >procedures you are using on this list. My guess is each contributor to a
> >discussion would need to be queried personally for permission to cite her/his
> >remarks. Correct?
> >M. Freeman
>
> Thanks, Molly
>
> for being the one to alert us comparative oldtimers to the fact that some
> things that used to be discussed or at least mentioned from time to time
> have started to be taken for granted.
>
> Perhaps, you Molly and others do not even know that for some time now the
> xmca has been one of those mailinglists that have automatic archiving that
> puts everything on the Web once every 24 hours. It's there, message by
> message, at URL
> http://communication.ucsd.edu/MCA/Mail/Discussion_archive.html
>
> This has been done on the basis of a developing agreement on these lists
> (it used to be the xlchc) that this is an open forum in a public medium.
> The development, however, has taken place over more than ten years, and I
> am not sure how newcomers are informed about it. To my mind, on the other
> hand, this awareness of its at least semi-public nature is pretty much
> becoming a standard on the Internet, unless the forum in case is very
> closed, socially and technically.
>
> On the XMCA Website there are also backlogs of most of the mailstream, from
> September 1995 when the list was opened under this name.
>
> The FTP site that I mentioned in the message that was interconfused between
> Judy and me (I responded in public to a privat request, and my private
> excuse to Judy was... not exactly the clearest...) ... well, anyway, the
> xlchc ftp site contains the older xlist archives: back to late 1987. The
> older stuff is in compressed files, so one has to have software and/or
> knowhow to deal with it. It was put there so that people could go back and
> see what had passed on the list while they were away (and such), and there
> was probably also from the start the intention to keep things for archival
> research (I'm currently using it).
>
> Finally (for now) the excerpt on Signs and Tools that is on the
> cite.ped.gu.se server in our little lab across the corridor, which I also
> mentioned, is actually one of the pages of the memorial site that I set up
> for Arne Raeithel soon after his untimely death on December 1st, 1996. I
> did not, as far as I remember, ask people one by one then, but I did
> annonce my intention on the XMCA list itself, as part of the collective
> outburst of mourning we had. Ironically, Arne's voice in the archives is
> one of the most explicit about finding it entirely OK to be quoted for
> half-baked texts and abandoned opinions, as long as the context of origin
> is clear. So when, now and then, I cannot resist forwarding some of his old
> stuff, because I have learned so much from reading it, I'm actually
> following in his tradition of acting as longterm memory for the list --
> this is one of the things he used to do, when he had the time and
> inspiration and the discussion was recycling old themes.
>
> Eva
>
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> Dr Eva Ekeblad
> Goteborg University
> Dept. of Education & Educational Research
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