[Xmca-l] Re: Andy Blunden on unit of analysis and Huw on cognition

Tue Sep 8 13:39:36 PDT 2020

Henry,

Thanks for listening and commenting. I'm finding the "unit of analysis"
idea rather compelling and have asked Andy a few more questions about it.
For me, it was worthwhile (and nice and short, here: https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://tiny.cc/ecstsz__;!!Mih3wA!V1QmGDX4RBxLmrDpk0edETrCFpdyH_T88O36J635HXHUX9fKCtcIj6PUYDqydUaD23GqWg$ 
if interested).

Thanks,

Anthony

On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 3:04 PM HENRY SHONERD <hshonerd@gmail.com> wrote:

> Gente,
> It’s been more than a week since Anthony linked us to his interview of
> Andy Blunden. I’ve been doing some slow listening and thinking about it.
>
> Hands down the best. through best in Andy’s talk is perizhvanie, both
> individual and collective. His story about his own moment of empowerment as
> an engineer was inspiring. But in looking back on his work as a union rep,
> Andy recalled those who were broken in the work place, sought therapy and
> finally went on the dole. I assume it is very much the later kind of story
> that put the fire in the his belly as a lifelong Marxist.
>
> A quibble and a modest proposal. I have read more of Andy’s work than that
> of any other Vygotsky-inspired author, including Vygotsky. Based on my
> reading of Andy, I think that he has overlooked something in responding to
> Anthony’s questions: *Project as the unit of analysis for the social
> sciences.*
>
> Another quibble and modest proposal. Huw, in the second interview with
> Anthony (the one liked below), asserts that “cognition is the conscious
> guiding aspect of activity”. If we can we substitute “project” for
> “activity” and recognize that affect is as much of a guide as intellect for
> any project, then we bring project and perizhvanie together in making sense
> of the human project.
>
> In communty
> Henry
>
>
>
> On Aug 29, 2020, at 9:53 AM, Anthony Barra <anthonymbarra@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> "Straddling the Abstract and the Concrete -- with Andy Blunden":
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://youtu.be/ec94eQSSX8E__;!!Mih3wA!V1QmGDX4RBxLmrDpk0edETrCFpdyH_T88O36J635HXHUX9fKCtcIj6PUYDqydUZ3UbqZlg$ 
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://youtu.be/ec94eQSSX8E__;!!Mih3wA!S33cTVIkU7U9v9FUG591iGWUqwJtBKNyXVcYA2nA_QKFGGvaUmFJKVsQ-Ah85IMcOT5oGA$>
>
> "Researcher and chronicler Andy Blunden reflects on his own relationship
> with Vygotsky, his role and contributions to the Vygotsky-sphere, and some
> developmental landmarks of his own. (Originally published August 28, 2020)
> Thanks again to Andy.
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 26, 2020, Anthony Barra <anthonymbarra@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Huw Lloyd is an interesting guy and a gracious conversation partner.
>>
>> He recently helped me close some (of the many) gaps in my knowledge and
>> understanding here: https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://tiny.cc/4kspsz__;!!Mih3wA!V1QmGDX4RBxLmrDpk0edETrCFpdyH_T88O36J635HXHUX9fKCtcIj6PUYDqydUazv_uxMg$ 
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://tiny.cc/4kspsz__;!!Mih3wA!S33cTVIkU7U9v9FUG591iGWUqwJtBKNyXVcYA2nA_QKFGGvaUmFJKVsQ-Ah85IOQe1eSLA$>
>>
>> Huw's commentary will likely be enjoyable even for fellow experts, who
>> could compare his answers to what their own might be, as well as my
>> questions to what they might've asked.
>>
>> I do feel a bit weird pushing my stuff here, but at the same time, enough
>> people have told me in public and private that they enjoy the videos, so I
>> do like sharing them.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Anthony
>>
>> (audio-only here: https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://tiny.cc/hlspsz__;!!Mih3wA!V1QmGDX4RBxLmrDpk0edETrCFpdyH_T88O36J635HXHUX9fKCtcIj6PUYDqydUbSeKrRzg$ 
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://tiny.cc/hlspsz__;!!Mih3wA!S33cTVIkU7U9v9FUG591iGWUqwJtBKNyXVcYA2nA_QKFGGvaUmFJKVsQ-Ah85INDZx1Ftw$>
>> )
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------
>> Video description and Timestamps:
>>
>> Researcher Huw Lloyd, fluent in numerous mental models, is a good
>> explainer of concepts -- including many I was completely unversed in. A few
>> threads run through the entirety of this chat: development, self-awareness,
>> and construing an active orientation to any given situation.
>>
>> SECTION 1: Our pathways to Vygotsky
>>
>> 0:36 - Reflections on Huw's recent "Vygotsky and Parenting"  (
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://tiny.cc/ymqpsz__;!!Mih3wA!V1QmGDX4RBxLmrDpk0edETrCFpdyH_T88O36J635HXHUX9fKCtcIj6PUYDqydUY192Hr8w$ 
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://tiny.cc/ymqpsz__;!!Mih3wA!S33cTVIkU7U9v9FUG591iGWUqwJtBKNyXVcYA2nA_QKFGGvaUmFJKVsQ-Ah85IMmjZIOjA$>
>> )
>>
>> 1:45 - Pros and cons of taking scholarly shortcuts
>>
>> 6:07 - Huw's arrival to Vygotsky, in part through dissatisfaction
>>  elsewhere
>>
>> SECTION 2: Huw's ideas about Active Orientation
>>
>> 16:38 - What is Active Orientation?
>>
>> 23:30 - Is Active Orientation a practice? (An exercise in self
>>  awareness)
>>
>> 31:58 - Active Orientation can be documented (microgenesis research of
>>  Huw's)
>>
>> SECTION 3: What is Developmental Education?
>>
>> 40:37 - A primer on Davydov and Developmental Education
>>
>> 46:07 - Empirical thinking vs. Theoretical thinking
>>
>> 50:23 - Grokking the material and the History of ideas
>>
>> 52:59 - Problems are Good
>>
>> 55:40 - An illustrative lesson of Davydov's
>>
>> 1:03:43 - Some key characteristics of developmental education
>>
>> 1:07:41 - Crises, construals, and neoformations
>>
>> 1:10:20 - The Desert Oak: a developmental TRIZ problem
>>
>> SECTION 4: Imagination and Confidence-building
>>
>> 1:16:07 - Imagination, flow, and problem-solving
>>
>> 1:24:10 - Systems and Design Ideas (TRIZ approach)
>>
>> 1:30:22 - Earned, authoritative confidence: Your tempered ideas are
>>  become Real
>>
>> 1:35:20 - The importance of problem-construal or framing
>>
>> 1:48:04 - Problem-creating, -solving, and -construing
>>
>> 1:53:51 - This is rich, highly concentrated material (Foundational,
>> generative, "unfoldable" concepts)
>>
>> 1:55:27 - Notational vs. developmental education (and epistemology)
>>
>> 1:57:10 - Final two questions (adult-development & advice for
>>  problem-designers)
>>
>> 2:06:20 - Complex vs. complicated (and self-regulation and distance
>>  learning)
>>
>> 2:09:46 - An idea for lunch (as promised: https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://tiny.cc/bvqpsz__;!!Mih3wA!V1QmGDX4RBxLmrDpk0edETrCFpdyH_T88O36J635HXHUX9fKCtcIj6PUYDqydUYtY9R6Zw$ 
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://tiny.cc/bvqpsz__;!!Mih3wA!S33cTVIkU7U9v9FUG591iGWUqwJtBKNyXVcYA2nA_QKFGGvaUmFJKVsQ-Ah85IMu2Pv5mA$>)
>>
>>
>> References:
>>
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://tiny.cc/5vqpsz__;!!Mih3wA!V1QmGDX4RBxLmrDpk0edETrCFpdyH_T88O36J635HXHUX9fKCtcIj6PUYDqydUaMUEkWXg$ 
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://tiny.cc/5vqpsz__;!!Mih3wA!S33cTVIkU7U9v9FUG591iGWUqwJtBKNyXVcYA2nA_QKFGGvaUmFJKVsQ-Ah85INPU-JiCw$>
>> - "A Study of Active Orientation" (brief  introduction)
>>
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://tiny.cc/2xqpsz__;!!Mih3wA!V1QmGDX4RBxLmrDpk0edETrCFpdyH_T88O36J635HXHUX9fKCtcIj6PUYDqydUbkqWHgDw$ 
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://tiny.cc/2xqpsz__;!!Mih3wA!S33cTVIkU7U9v9FUG591iGWUqwJtBKNyXVcYA2nA_QKFGGvaUmFJKVsQ-Ah85IPBkikkbw$>
>> - "TRIZ: a Powerful Methodology for Creative  Problem Solving"
>>
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://tiny.cc/dxqpsz__;!!Mih3wA!V1QmGDX4RBxLmrDpk0edETrCFpdyH_T88O36J635HXHUX9fKCtcIj6PUYDqydUbqNgD6dQ$ 
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://tiny.cc/dxqpsz__;!!Mih3wA!S33cTVIkU7U9v9FUG591iGWUqwJtBKNyXVcYA2nA_QKFGGvaUmFJKVsQ-Ah85IOUymWXPg$>
>> - "Going with the Flow: How to Engage Boys (and  Girls) in Their Literacy
>> Learning"
>>
>>
>
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