[Xmca-l] Re: Fwd: [New post] Why generations?

Wed Nov 25 08:48:25 PST 2020

The interesting video cuts off just before Yrjo was going to tell us what
studies found out (or didn't) about academia as an activity system. I would
be very interested in his answer.  Is that clip or a transcript accessible?
Thanks
Chuck
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די פאַרייניקטע שטאַטן איז אַ פאָלק פון ימאַגראַנץ
الولايات المتحدة هي أمة من المهاجرين
Los Estados Unidos es una nación de inmigrantes.
The U.S. is a nation of immigrants.
History will judge.
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On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 8:31 AM Beth Ferholt <bferholt@gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 11:25 AM Arturo Cortez <cortez.arturo@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> For real!! Those fools ain’t worth your brilliance. But, real talk: did
>> Anthony Barra say that I misunderstood because of my language and culture?
>> That s**t is racist, if so.
>>
>> You doing alright? I need to figure out how to chill with you one day.
>> Wish we lived closer, but I know we’ll figure it out.
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>> Lots of love to you and your family. Thank you for checking in. And let’s
>> take a break from these jerks. I needed to make sure that student didn’t
>> get framed in a messed up way and I assumed there would be blowback. If
>> these fools had any power I’d be concerned. While their insignificance
>> annoys me, it annoys me further that they think anything they say matters
>> beyond their bubble and to that matter: I don’t think it is possible to
>> engage them in any reflection as it is impossible for them to apologize. So
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>> Love you!!!
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>> On Nov 24, 2020, at 19:34, Anthony Barra <anthonymbarra@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> You should not be upset, Andy, as there was nothing negative in the way
>> you introduced that video.
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>> Sometimes, in cross-cultural settings, a phrase or two can translate in
>> unexpected ways.  But that's a small price to pay, compared to the much
>> larger benefits of an international community.
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>> Happily, everyone is back on the same page now.  So keep your head high.
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>> Anthony
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>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 7:11 PM Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I never intended my message to frame Anna's question as "adversarial."
>>> Of course it was genuine! It is also true that many people have been
>>> wanting an answer to this question and I meant to applaud Anna for posing
>>> the question to Yjro. As it happens Yrjo gave an excellent answer to the
>>> question. He both explained how it has led to unfortunate misunderstandings
>>> of which he was well aware, and the original, perfectly good meaning that
>>> the term has.
>>>
>>> Obviously I am upset that what I intended as praise for Anna's action
>>> has been construed in this way. One lives, one learns. I am sorry. I hope
>>> now that xmca-ers who are interested in Yrjo's work will have a look at the
>>> video and maybe make a comment on it, and we will all have learnt.
>>>
>>> andy
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>>> On 25/11/2020 4:06 am, ARTURO CORTEZ wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, Andy.
>>>
>>> Thanks for bringing this video to the attention of xmca. As a
>>> co-designer and participant in the course, I would frame this differently.
>>> Anna asked a genuine question that she (and others) had and was eager to
>>> learn more about 4th Gen from an expert, Dr. Engeström, who was very
>>> responsive. The class was a very generative space and I don’t recall an
>>> adversarial or confrontational instance (and I’ve analyzed the videos)
>>> during Yrjo’s talk or others. As someone who was there, I thought it was
>>> important to share this context.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Arturo
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>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 5:26 PM Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org> wrote:
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>>>> See the latest video clip on culturalpraxis.net
>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://culturalpraxis.net__;!!Mih3wA!SMBCK4NdVc3wTnUqfXOE8xrQsFqmqjSiktLA1a_H3E_DwVPtzlpA_rLZSzR7oOmvGi5Uyw$>
>>>> - a young researcher puts Yrjo on the spot with the question everyone has
>>>> been asking: What's this with the "fourth generation"?
>>>> Andy
>>>>
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>>>> Victoria posted: "
>>>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XijCqxkpHLU&feature=youtu.be__;!!Mih3wA!QV049-QI5P9Q_lwCWb1l7ILu60fCpMgRm4nK8hiZwlVsnQq5t24Hsx2Hzq5oCKA_Pwfy1A$  In this video
>>>> Professor Yrjö Engeström responds to Anna Zarkh's question on the reasons
>>>> to use the term generations to approach cultural-historical activity theory
>>>> (CHAT). The piece is"
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>>>> generations?
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>>>> In this video Professor Yrjö Engeström responds to Anna Zarkh's
>>>> question on the reasons to use the term generations to approach
>>>> cultural-historical activity theory (CHAT). The piece is an excerpt from
>>>> the seminar "From CHAT to critical CHAT, organized by Professor Kris
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>>>> *Victoria
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