[Xmca-l] Re: Fwd: [New post] Why generations?

Andy Blunden andyb@marxists.org
Tue Nov 24 16:08:40 PST 2020


I never intended my message to frame Anna's question as 
"adversarial." Of course it was genuine! It is also true 
that many people have been wanting an answer to this 
question and I meant to applaud Anna for posing the question 
to Yjro. As it happens Yrjo gave an excellent answer to the 
question. He both explained how it has led to unfortunate 
misunderstandings of which he was well aware, and the 
original, perfectly good meaning that the term has.

Obviously I am upset that what I intended as praise for 
Anna's action has been construed in this way. One lives, one 
learns. I am sorry. I hope now that xmca-ers who are 
interested in Yrjo's work will have a look at the video and 
maybe make a comment on it, and we will all have learnt.

andy

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On 25/11/2020 4:06 am, ARTURO CORTEZ wrote:
> Hi, Andy.
>
> Thanks for bringing this video to the attention of xmca. 
> As a co-designer and participant in the course, I would 
> frame this differently. Anna asked a genuine question that 
> she (and others) had and was eager to learn more about 4th 
> Gen from an expert, Dr. Engeström, who was very 
> responsive. The class was a very generative space and I 
> don’t recall an adversarial or confrontational instance 
> (and I’ve analyzed the videos) during Yrjo’s talk or 
> others. As someone who was there, I thought it was 
> important to share this context.
>
> Best,
> Arturo
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 5:26 PM Andy Blunden 
> <andyb@marxists.org <mailto:andyb@marxists.org>> wrote:
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>     See the latest video clip on culturalpraxis.net
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>     - a young researcher puts Yrjo on the spot with the
>     question everyone has been asking: What's this with
>     the "fourth generation"?
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>     Andy
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>     Victoria posted: "
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>     In this video Professor Yrjö Engeström responds to
>     Anna Zarkh's question on the reasons to use the term
>     generations to approach cultural-historical activity
>     theory (CHAT). The piece is"
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>     In this video Professor Yrjö Engeström responds to
>     Anna Zarkh's question on the reasons to use the term
>     generations to approach cultural-historical activity
>     theory (CHAT). The piece is an excerpt from the
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