[Xmca-l] Re: Fwd: [New post] Why generations?

ARTURO CORTEZ cortez@berkeley.edu
Tue Nov 24 09:06:44 PST 2020


Hi, Andy.

Thanks for bringing this video to the attention of xmca. As a co-designer
and participant in the course, I would frame this differently. Anna asked a
genuine question that she (and others) had and was eager to learn more
about 4th Gen from an expert, Dr. Engeström, who was very responsive. The
class was a very generative space and I don’t recall an adversarial or
confrontational instance (and I’ve analyzed the videos) during Yrjo’s talk
or others. As someone who was there, I thought it was important to share
this context.

Best,
Arturo

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 5:26 PM Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org> wrote:

> See the latest video clip on culturalpraxis.net - a young researcher puts
> Yrjo on the spot with the question everyone has been asking: What's this
> with the "fourth generation"?
> Andy
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> activity theory (CHAT). The piece is an excerpt from the seminar "From CHAT
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