[Xmca-l] Re: My Hometown Minneapolis

Thu Jun 25 20:20:00 PDT 2020

A good piece about data in studies of police, even for people who break out in hives when they read statistics.  

Even many of the footnotes and hyperlinks are quite nice and “collider bias” is interesting in itself and funny about how it got its name.

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-statistics-dont-capture-the-full-extent-of-the-systemic-bias-in-policing/__;!!Mih3wA!SXOizJNkHOkm0MTHsaYXlMnJCUgDjtE0w2mM8nh5Y6vvISeLReq1-LPZ7XxWIJftbdUu2Q$ 

Peg

PS: In an earlier post, I  mentioned the trouble DC had getting mandated (and funded) data from our police and by coincidence this article has a link to part of the saga in the following phrase: “data which is not always easy to obtain <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/news/city-desk/blog/21004223/civil-rights-and-activist-groups-sue-bowser-over-stopandfrisk-data-collection__;!!Mih3wA!SXOizJNkHOkm0MTHsaYXlMnJCUgDjtE0w2mM8nh5Y6vvISeLReq1-LPZ7XxWIJcx0tgUKg$ >  “

From: xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of HENRY SHONERD
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Well done!

On Jun 10, 2020, at 9:08 AM, Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org <mailto:andyb@marxists.org> > wrote:

There is a good run through of the data here:  <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxPVSdHT5MQ&t=1365__;!!Mih3wA!TTpYwLwgt8a0qUfpHv1qmNoajkLwHRw-6pwpeltWAK58o0kIvPQrZpmOzAuLaxINhXE5ew$> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxPVSdHT5MQ&t=1365s__;!!Mih3wA!SXOizJNkHOkm0MTHsaYXlMnJCUgDjtE0w2mM8nh5Y6vvISeLReq1-LPZ7XxWIJdQ3-fEsg$ 

that's 22m45s in.

Andy

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On 10/06/2020 1:13 am, Peg Griffin, Ph.D. wrote:

Yes everyone suffers, but it is about white supremacy rather than racism.

Other people in other places have other things, maybe other race supremacies to rise against.  

Whether it’s race or not, it’s people with the knees on the necks that must lead and be followed.

Who follows, here, is whoever isn’t a white supremacist.

It is painful and time taking to apprehend what white privilege means in action. It is difficult to persevere in the denial of white privilege in one’s own life. 

It’s a careful distinction – between white supremacy and racism.

Here and now the reduction to racism deflects us to an “epigenetic byway,” provides room to protect dangerous institutions and practices, to produce misshapen changes.  White supremacists make references to, praise, make symbols of, people who are not white whose jobs or statements or health; it is supposed to be prima facie evidence that they aren’t racist. More long term and subtly, it divides us, hides them, and maligns and degrades us. 

The ties that bind white supremacy and fascism are blatant, as Mike’s references to the late 30’s highlight.

PG

From:  <mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu [ <mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> mailto:xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Andy Blunden
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No, the American Century is over, I believe, even if America can take a leading part in ushering in the new epoch, I think it will be to release the rest of the world from the USA's mania to micromanage everyone else. The pandemic was, I think, the catalyst which brought the issues to the surface which were bubbling away for a long time. And might I venture the opinion that the vast investment in this BLM movement by young "white" people is in large part because cops kill a hell of a lot of white kids as well, and everyone is suffering under the system in which African Americans are victimised.

Andy

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On 9/06/2020 12:11 pm, Martin Packer wrote:

On Jun 8, 2020, at 8:34 PM, Andy Blunden < <mailto:andyb@marxists.org> andyb@marxists.org> wrote:

Even in the depths of degradation and ignominy America can lead, it seems.

This is something worth and worthy of theorizing, isn’t it?! Turns out the World Perezhivanie is not the coronavirus, or at least not the coronavirus alone. It is racism. And the global subject that has just been formed has found its lead in the US. The US Century may not be over after all!

Martin

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