[Xmca-l] Re: Identity and personality

Wed Jul 8 15:07:24 PDT 2020

On identity from sociocultural and cultural-historical perspectives, we
have had a number of things during the first decade of the century. In this
MCA piece, the attempt is to approach the issue through the construct of
identity:
*Roth, W.-M.*, Tobin, K., Elmesky, R., Carambo, C., McKnight, Y., & Beers,
J. (2004). Re/making identities in the praxis of urban schooling: A
cultural historical perspective. Mind, Culture, & Activity, 11, 48-69.

But there are problems, I think, from the cultural-historical perspective
with the concept of identity, and thus in later work, I formulated the
problem of the subject in terms of personality:
*Roth, W.-M.* (2013). Activity, subjectification, and personality: Science
education from a diversity of life perspective. In N. Mansour & R. Wegerif
(Eds.), *Science education for diversity in knowledge society* (pp. 41–64).
Dordrecht, The Netherlands: Springer.

Another approach more suitable for a CHAT approach is through the category
of experience (perezhivanie)
*Roth, W.-M.* (2013). Activity, subjectification, and personality: Science
education from a diversity of life perspective. In N. Mansour & R. Wegerif
(Eds.), *Science education for diversity in knowledge society* (pp. 41–64).
Dordrecht, The Netherlands: Springer.

Michael

*Roth, W.-M.*, & Tobin, K. (Eds.). (2007). *Science, learning, identity:
Sociocultural and cultural historical perspectives*. Rotterdam, The
Netherlands: Sense Publishers.
*Roth, W.-M.*, Hwang, S., Lee, Y-J., & Goulart, M.I.M. (2005). *Participation,
learning, and identity: Dialectical perspectives*. Berlin, Germany:
Lehmanns Media.

On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 2:58 PM Coppens, Andrew <Andrew.Coppens@unh.edu>
wrote:

> Sure thing. They are here:
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> / Andrew
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> Andrew D. Coppens
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> *From: *<xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> on behalf of Annalisa Aguilar <
> annalisa@unm.edu>
> *Reply-To: *"eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> *Date: *Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 4:24 PM
> *To: *"eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> *Subject: *[Xmca-l] Re: Identity and personality
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> Hi Andrew,
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> I would be happy to receive a copy of these articles. In the name of fair
> use, would you please post them to the list?
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> Kind regards,
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> Annalisa
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> *From:* xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu <xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> on behalf of Coppens, Andrew <Andrew.Coppens@unh.edu>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 8, 2020 11:35 AM
> *To:* eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> *Subject:* [Xmca-l] Re: Identity and personality
>
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> *  [EXTERNAL]*
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> Hi Hans,
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>
> I agree with Andy that this is a complex question. Some of the complexity
> comes from around 40 years of identity research in
> psychological/personality traditions, that significantly departs from
> Erikson’s (1964) writings in *Identity: Youth and Crisis* to develop a
> relatively strong individualistic and ahistorical view. In the wake of this
> tradition, technical terms for Erikson such as “identity,” “self,” “ego,”
> etc. have vernacular connotations rooted in individualistic (American)
> psychological paradigms. Erikson explicitly and preemptively rejected much
> of the Marcia “identity status” tradition, despite its later and continued
> prominence. For example:
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> “In emphasizing once more the complementarity of life history and history,
> I must register a certain impatience with the faddish equation, never
> suggested by me, of the term identity with the question ‘Who am I?’ This
> question nobody would ask himself except in a more or less transient morbid
> state, in a creative self-confrontation, or in an adolescent state
> sometimes combining both… The pertinent question, if it can be put into the
> first person at all, would be, ‘What do I want to make of myself, and what
> do I have to work with?’” (Erikson, 1964, p. 314)
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> In the broader arc of Erikson’s writing in this book, “who am I?” is
> recast as a historical and cultural question for particular communities and
> not a question inherent to identity work for everyone. See Matusov & Smith
> (2012) below on this point, and Arnett and many others on the historical
> and cultural specificity of adolescence as understood by many middle-class
> Western communities.
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> In the rise of narrative (especially not autobiographical) approaches to
> identity research, some are returning to Erik Erikson’s writings with
> questions that many CHAT researchers would share. See this special issue
> from a couple of years ago: https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.tandfonline.com/toc/hidn20/18/4__;!!Mih3wA!WsRPJqkd0QJi5HZIWivgL-jlWlUwwjBUTpz3-ECMnd_FAL0mNwLIl6Vmi580oc4p3B9ejw$ 
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> Erikson was trying to unite sociology and clinical psychology, a means to
> an end aimed at historicizing the self in ways that are often compatible
> with CHAT’s efforts to historicize the mind. Colleagues and I are currently
> writing a paper that reads Erikson’s project as developing “identity” not
> as an individual process or property, but as this sort of a historical unit
> of analysis, constituted in dialectically related personal biography and
> cultural history. Regretfully, we don’t yet have a draft that can be shared.
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> I also suggest the following, and I am certainly overlooking many other
> relevant works:
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> Matusov, E., & Smith, M. P. (2012). The middle-class nature of identity
> and its implications for education: A genealogical analysis and
> reevaluation of a culturally and historically bounded concept. *Integrative
> Psychological and Behavioral Science*, *46*(3), 274–295.
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> Nasir, N. S., & Cooks, J. (2009). Becoming a Hurdler: How Learning
> Settings Afford Identities. *Anthropology & Education Quarterly*, *40*(1),
> 41–61. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1548-1492.2009.01027.x__;!!Mih3wA!WsRPJqkd0QJi5HZIWivgL-jlWlUwwjBUTpz3-ECMnd_FAL0mNwLIl6Vmi580oc4_icFu-Q$ 
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> Stetsenko, A. (2013). The Challenge of Individuality in Cultural
> Historical Activity Theory: “Collectividual” Dialectics from a
> Transformative Activist Stance. *Outlines: Critical Practice Studies*,
> *14*(2), 7–28.
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>
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> Stetsenko, A., & Arievitch, I. M. (2004). The self in cultural-historical
> activity theory: Reclaiming the unity of social and individual dimensions
> of human development. *Theory & Psychology*, *14*(4), 475–503.
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://doi.org/10.1177/0959354304044921__;!!Mih3wA!WsRPJqkd0QJi5HZIWivgL-jlWlUwwjBUTpz3-ECMnd_FAL0mNwLIl6Vmi580oc4FPOpwwA$ 
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> Vågan, A. (2011). Towards a Sociocultural Perspective on Identity
> Formation in Education. *Mind, Culture, and Activity*, *18*(1), 43–57.
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://doi.org/10.1080/10749031003605839__;!!Mih3wA!WsRPJqkd0QJi5HZIWivgL-jlWlUwwjBUTpz3-ECMnd_FAL0mNwLIl6Vmi580oc6chm31RQ$ 
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> Wenger, E. (1998). *Communities of practice: Learning, meaning, and
> identity*. Cambridge University Press.
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> Happy to share these readings if you are behind a paywall, Hans.
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> / Andrew
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> Andrew D. Coppens
>
> UNH Education Dept., 302 Morrill Hall
>
> 603-862-3736, @andrewcoppens
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> *From: *<xmca-l-bounces@mailman.ucsd.edu> on behalf of Andy Blunden <
> andyb@marxists.org>
> *Reply-To: *"eXtended Mind, Culture, Activity" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> *Date: *Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 9:22 AM
> *To: *"xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu" <xmca-l@mailman.ucsd.edu>
> *Subject: *[Xmca-l] Re: Identity and personality
>
>
>
> I hope others will chime in with more answers for you, Hans, because this
> is actually a very complex question.
>
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.amazon.com.au/Identity-Agency-Cultural-Dorothy-Holland/dp/0674005627__;!!Mih3wA!WsRPJqkd0QJi5HZIWivgL-jlWlUwwjBUTpz3-ECMnd_FAL0mNwLIl6Vmi580oc6AT0wnsg$ 
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> "Identity and Agency in Cultural Worlds" will have a lot helpful material
> for you. As I recall, in this book, Dorothy Holland explains that there
> are two basic answers to asking what is the "self." For some people it is a
> kind of inner core, for others it is something that grows and matures in
> interaction with the world, layers rather than an inner core. CHAT writers
> tend to answer for the second approach rather than the first.
>
> Add to this the difficulty in translating the word "personality" between
> Russian and English. There are not perfect matches. Even the Kantian "I" is
> a construct of development for CHAT and not some transcendental entity.
> Vygotsky and Leontyev are more like Hegel and Marx than Kant and Nietzsche.
>
> The following article of mine
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/pdfs/Leontyev*20and*20Social*20Theory.pdf__;JSUl!!Mih3wA!WsRPJqkd0QJi5HZIWivgL-jlWlUwwjBUTpz3-ECMnd_FAL0mNwLIl6Vmi580oc5r-ljH6g$ 
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> looks at Leontyev's ideas, including his idea of "personality," and
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> looks at Vasilyuk's Psychology which may also help shed light on Soviet
> approaches.
>
> Hope that helps.
> Andy
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> On 8/07/2020 6:23 pm, Hans Knutagård wrote:
>
> Dear xmca,
>
>
>
> I am struggling between the notion of personality and identity in the framework of Chat. My understanding is that we cannot talk about identity only personality since it os required in relation to other people and environment. Can somebody help me with some reading or references I can dig into?
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>
> Yours Hans
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