[Xmca-l] Re: Identity and personality

[Andy Blunden]

I hope others will chime in with more answers for you, Hans, 
because this is actually a very complex question.

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.amazon.com.au/Identity-Agency-Cultural-Dorothy-Holland/dp/0674005627*22Identity__;JQ!!Mih3wA!XIQO3yYLAB1Akq-BjMwXNNcW2pGv4KGlt9xwLTRfoW-Pl-kqrneI2RnHjjp__h48IppqZg$  
and Agency in Cultural Worlds" will have a lot helpful 
material for you. As I recall,in this book, Dorothy Holland 
explains that there are two basic answers to asking what is 
the "self." For some people it is a kind of inner core, for 
others it is something that grows and matures in interaction 
with the world, layers rather than an inner core. CHAT 
writers tend to answer for the second approach rather than 
the first.

Add to this the difficulty in translating the word 
"personality" between Russian and English. There are not 
perfect matches. Even the Kantian "I" is a construct of 
development for CHAT and not some transcendental entity. 
Vygotsky and Leontyev are more like Hegel and Marx than Kant 
and Nietzsche.

The following article of mine 
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/pdfs/Leontyev*20and*20Social*20Theory.pdf__;JSUl!!Mih3wA!XIQO3yYLAB1Akq-BjMwXNNcW2pGv4KGlt9xwLTRfoW-Pl-kqrneI2RnHjjp__h7ubZU7cA$  
looks at Leontyev's ideas, including his idea of 
"personality," and 
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/pdfs/Fedor*20Vasilyuk.pdf__;JQ!!Mih3wA!XIQO3yYLAB1Akq-BjMwXNNcW2pGv4KGlt9xwLTRfoW-Pl-kqrneI2RnHjjp__h5_RkHW3Q$  
looks at Vasilyuk's Psychology which may also help shed 
light on Soviet approaches.

Hope that helps.
Andy

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On 8/07/2020 6:23 pm, Hans Knutagård wrote:
> Dear xmca,
>
> I am struggling between the notion of personality and identity in the framework of Chat. My understanding is that we cannot talk about identity only personality since it os required in relation to other people and environment. Can somebody help me with some reading or references I can dig into?
>
> Yours Hans
>
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