[Xmca-l] Re: Covid as World Perezhivanie?

[HENRY SHONERD]

Andy,
In the reading from the third link below, you mention "rolling National Liberation Movements”. There’s a song by Sylvio Rodríguez that captures for me the collective affect of perivanie. I learned it in Cuba in 1969. It’s in Spanish, but Google translate is easy to use. Still no words in English can quite capture the sense of the title "La era está pariendo un corazón, no puede más, se muere de dolor”. How can a heart give birth to a world?
Henry

> On Apr 24, 2020, at 7:05 PM, Andy Blunden <andyb@marxists.org> wrote:
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> Greg, the word is polysemic, as Mike said, but I agree with Michael that perezhivaniya are essentially collective experiences. As I say in the article, that COVID will be experienced differently in different countries, by different classes and social groups is an important part of this process. It does not detract it from its being a single experience.
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> Huw, a "world subject" is emergent at this moment. It is implicit or "in-itself" but I look forward to the appearance of such a world subject, though who know how long and through what traumas we will pass before it is an actuality. Like WW2, the COVID pandemic part of its birth process.
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> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ethicalpolitics.org/seminars/perezhivanie.htm__;!!Mih3wA!RmnsQ3t1OwFyhgqspMRlvOm5J-mCvnNCmtd1Akieh2MacDKFt3JtMRTaDO7OdF-rH2MYwQ$ , <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ethicalpolitics.org/seminars/perezhivanie.htm__;!!Mih3wA!S8ALk6GlG2xHhKD5PZffsZwZSDgRm3dCjkxcBsYpsG0QakxKLngh6lBP1DDCY0iFFi2kTw$> Notes, links, excerpts, 2009
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/pdfs/Blunden_article*response.pdf__;Kw!!Mih3wA!RmnsQ3t1OwFyhgqspMRlvOm5J-mCvnNCmtd1Akieh2MacDKFt3JtMRTaDO7OdF-Bk4L6gw$  <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ethicalpolitics.org/ablunden/pdfs/Blunden_article*response.pdf__;Kw!!Mih3wA!S8ALk6GlG2xHhKD5PZffsZwZSDgRm3dCjkxcBsYpsG0QakxKLngh6lBP1DDCY0jGnjh6xA$>, MCA article 2016
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> Andy
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> Andy Blunden
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> On 25/04/2020 4:01 am, Greg Thompson wrote:
>> I'm wondering about Andy's suggestion that covid-19 is a (or maybe "is creating a"?) world perezhivanie. That seems a really rich suggestion but I'm not sure how many of us on the list really understand what he means by this.
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>> Andy tends to just tell me to go read more and so I'm wondering if someone else might be willing to take a stab at explaining what he might mean.
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>> Also, as a critical intervention, I am wondering whether covid-19 is the "same" for everyone. We have folks in the U.S. who think it is basically just a typical flu that has been turned into a political tool to attack the current president. Or does that not matter for perezhivanie?
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>> (and just to be clear, my question is not whether or not this is true or right or beautiful to think this way; my question is whether or not this is how people are actually experiencing the world since I assume that this is what perezhivanie is supposed to be "getting at". Or am I misunderstanding perezhivanie?)
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>> So is there really a shared perezhivanie here?
>> (Is The Problem of Age the place to look for answers?)
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>> But if no one wants to take this up (perhaps too much ink has been spilt over perezhivanie?), that's fine too.
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>> Cheers,
>> greg
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